530i VS. 545i HELP.
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Not that you'll ever tell them this-- but your parents are a bit naive and outdated when it comes to car safety. In the past, it was true that MB and BMW were probably safer than most cars. But, nowadays its not so true. You'd probably be just as well off, or maybe better off in a Ford 500 or even Hoonda Accord (which was one of the top rated cars by the IIHS). When the 5 series first came out, it actually did poorly in the Euro NCAP tests and BMW had to make some changes. Kinda makes you think-- BMW knew all about the test before it was conducted, so how'd they manage to do so badly? Strange. Sure, BMW is very good in terms of active safety (avoiding accidents)-- but I think that has even more to do w/ the skill level of the driver than the car's abilities.
Also, personally, if I were you, I wouldn't want a brand new BMW 5 series at your age. Where do you go from there? Then again, if I were 16 it would be hard to resist a brand new BMW if I were offered it-- but in retrospect, I don't think its such a great thing. Its going to be hard to accept "lesser" cars should you ever be a worse financial situation. And, with the car's power and handling you're probably more likely to be tempted into more aggressive drving and more likely to end up in accident.
To make it through your teen years safely and without becoming jaded, you should probably ask them to buy you a Toyota Camry.
I'm sure you won't listen to any of this ( I probably woudn't), but thought I'd say it anwyay...
Also, personally, if I were you, I wouldn't want a brand new BMW 5 series at your age. Where do you go from there? Then again, if I were 16 it would be hard to resist a brand new BMW if I were offered it-- but in retrospect, I don't think its such a great thing. Its going to be hard to accept "lesser" cars should you ever be a worse financial situation. And, with the car's power and handling you're probably more likely to be tempted into more aggressive drving and more likely to end up in accident.
To make it through your teen years safely and without becoming jaded, you should probably ask them to buy you a Toyota Camry.
I'm sure you won't listen to any of this ( I probably woudn't), but thought I'd say it anwyay...
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Originally Posted by yadamean' post='222458' date='Jan 11 2006, 07:13 AM
hey im 16 and new to e60's. im possibly getting a 5 series, but not sure which to get (530i or 545i)
i want to save money, so 530i would be best for a "cheaper" price.
but in other cases, can you guys help me out which would be better?
and could someone tell me the prices on insurance for both?
sorry to be all nooby here. i gotta start somewhere dont i
thanks
i want to save money, so 530i would be best for a "cheaper" price.
but in other cases, can you guys help me out which would be better?
and could someone tell me the prices on insurance for both?
sorry to be all nooby here. i gotta start somewhere dont i
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thanks
bottom line i think you should go for the 530
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hey im 16 and new to e60's. im possibly getting a 5 series, but not sure which to get (530i or 545i)
i want to save money, so 530i would be best for a "cheaper" price.
but in other cases, can you guys help me out which would be better?
and could someone tell me the prices on insurance for both?
sorry to be all nooby here. i gotta start somewhere dont i
thanks
i want to save money, so 530i would be best for a "cheaper" price.
but in other cases, can you guys help me out which would be better?
and could someone tell me the prices on insurance for both?
sorry to be all nooby here. i gotta start somewhere dont i
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thanks
Not that you'll ever tell them this-- but your parents are a bit naive and outdated when it comes to car safety. In the past, it was true that MB and BMW were probably safer than most cars. But, nowadays its not so true. You'd probably be just as well off, or maybe better off in a Ford 500 or even Hoonda Accord (which was one of the top rated cars by the IIHS). When the 5 series first came out, it actually did poorly in the Euro NCAP tests and BMW had to make some changes. Kinda makes you think-- BMW knew all about the test before it was conducted, so how'd they manage to do so badly? Strange. Sure, BMW is very good in terms of active safety (avoiding accidents)-- but I think that has even more to do w/ the skill level of the driver than the car's abilities.
Also, personally, if I were you, I wouldn't want a brand new BMW 5 series at your age. Where do you go from there? Then again, if I were 16 it would be hard to resist a brand new BMW if I were offered it-- but in retrospect, I don't think its such a great thing. Its going to be hard to accept "lesser" cars should you ever be a worse financial situation. And, with the car's power and handling you're probably more likely to be tempted into more aggressive drving and more likely to end up in accident.
To make it through your teen years safely and without becoming jaded, you should probably ask them to buy you a Toyota Camry.
I'm sure you won't listen to any of this ( I probably woudn't), but thought I'd say it anwyay...
Also, personally, if I were you, I wouldn't want a brand new BMW 5 series at your age. Where do you go from there? Then again, if I were 16 it would be hard to resist a brand new BMW if I were offered it-- but in retrospect, I don't think its such a great thing. Its going to be hard to accept "lesser" cars should you ever be a worse financial situation. And, with the car's power and handling you're probably more likely to be tempted into more aggressive drving and more likely to end up in accident.
To make it through your teen years safely and without becoming jaded, you should probably ask them to buy you a Toyota Camry.
I'm sure you won't listen to any of this ( I probably woudn't), but thought I'd say it anwyay...
i dont really know what to say about the safety of bmw. whatever my parents think about whats safe for me ill accept. i guess the real reason why my parents WANT a bmw for safety is because
1- we've seen alot of civic's, honda's, etc in accidents
2- we were in a car accident not long ago, and the X5 was sturdy and strong for us.
3- just the thought of european body on the car is enough to convince my parents.
thanks guys
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when my daughter turns 16 she is going to drive a cement mixer - big and slow - and no back seat
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Originally Posted by dgjk' post='223077' date='Jan 11 2006, 11:45 PM
when my daughter turns 16 she is going to drive a cement mixer - big and slow - and no back seat
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HAhahah now honestly is that a lie? You tried talking your parents out of getting you a E60? NO WAY!!! I would take it in a blink of an eye
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Now for safety... on a serious note... I think the Ford Five Hundred is safer than the E60... Weird... Soooooooooo weird... They're rated waaaaaaay up there. Amazingly!
Is the Audi A6 Better than the 5er? afterall 6 is greater than 5. LOL
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Originally Posted by yadamean' post='223031' date='Jan 11 2006, 06:12 PM
trust me,
ive tried talking out my parents in buying me a 5 series.
i even offered getting a honda, acura, volkswagon, etc.
its always "SAFETY FIRST", no matter the price.
ive tried talking out my parents in buying me a 5 series.
i even offered getting a honda, acura, volkswagon, etc.
its always "SAFETY FIRST", no matter the price.
HAhahah now honestly is that a lie? You tried talking your parents out of getting you a E60? NO WAY!!! I would take it in a blink of an eye
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Now for safety... on a serious note... I think the Ford Five Hundred is safer than the E60... Weird... Soooooooooo weird... They're rated waaaaaaay up there. Amazingly!
Is the Audi A6 Better than the 5er? afterall 6 is greater than 5. LOL
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haha the only reason why i tried talking them out of getting me a 5 series was cus i wanted my car to be stick. it was hard enough to find a 5 series in san jose area. plus my parents think that it might distract my driving. (since i drive so wrecklessly in their point of view)
but i tried talking them into buying me a car like an sti or evo or g35.
once again... asian style aka big ballin cars.
ahah
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This whole thing is kind of stupid, and annoying.
My thoughts are all over the place here, so I'll list them:
#1 Good job for your parents being financially capable of dropping $65k on a car for a 16 year old
#2 I hope they instilled values in you to understand the value of a dollar and what it means to earn it (I sound like my father now)
#3 Good for you for researching this decision- that show maturity
#4 Shame on me for being jealous that I didn't have such fortune at your age
#5 A 550i for a new driver is a LOT of power. You'll be proudly impressed by the 530i, but drive both and decide for yourself. Just please don't try to show off it's power- you'll only hurt yourself, or worse, someone innocent in your wake
#6 You sound like a smart kid. You know what would be great? If you were able to stay low key and humble despite having the advantages of a "rich kid". I'd really respect that- make me proud.
Best of luck,
John
My thoughts are all over the place here, so I'll list them:
#1 Good job for your parents being financially capable of dropping $65k on a car for a 16 year old
#2 I hope they instilled values in you to understand the value of a dollar and what it means to earn it (I sound like my father now)
#3 Good for you for researching this decision- that show maturity
#4 Shame on me for being jealous that I didn't have such fortune at your age
#5 A 550i for a new driver is a LOT of power. You'll be proudly impressed by the 530i, but drive both and decide for yourself. Just please don't try to show off it's power- you'll only hurt yourself, or worse, someone innocent in your wake
#6 You sound like a smart kid. You know what would be great? If you were able to stay low key and humble despite having the advantages of a "rich kid". I'd really respect that- make me proud.
Best of luck,
John
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Originally Posted by cattman' post='223165' date='Jan 12 2006, 02:29 AM
This whole thing is kind of stupid, and annoying.
My thoughts are all over the place here, so I'll list them:
#1 Good job for your parents being financially capable of dropping $65k on a car for a 16 year old
#2 I hope they instilled values in you to understand the value of a dollar and what it means to earn it (I sound like my father now)
#3 Good for you for researching this decision- that show maturity
#4 Shame on me for being jealous that I didn't have such fortune at your age
#5 A 550i for a new driver is a LOT of power. You'll be proudly impressed by the 530i, but drive both and decide for yourself. Just please don't try to show off it's power- you'll only hurt yourself, or worse, someone innocent in your wake
#6 You sound like a smart kid. You know what would be great? If you were able to stay low key and humble despite having the advantages of a "rich kid". I'd really respect that- make me proud.
Best of luck,
John
My thoughts are all over the place here, so I'll list them:
#1 Good job for your parents being financially capable of dropping $65k on a car for a 16 year old
#2 I hope they instilled values in you to understand the value of a dollar and what it means to earn it (I sound like my father now)
#3 Good for you for researching this decision- that show maturity
#4 Shame on me for being jealous that I didn't have such fortune at your age
#5 A 550i for a new driver is a LOT of power. You'll be proudly impressed by the 530i, but drive both and decide for yourself. Just please don't try to show off it's power- you'll only hurt yourself, or worse, someone innocent in your wake
#6 You sound like a smart kid. You know what would be great? If you were able to stay low key and humble despite having the advantages of a "rich kid". I'd really respect that- make me proud.
Best of luck,
John
i have no intention of bragging about my "richness."
1- im not rich.
2- my parents do trust me with their money.
3- as for your maturity statement, are you being sarcastic?
4- i never meant to make anyone jealous. i came here for help, as stated previously.
5- thanks for the tip that ive been looking for. im pretty sure im responsible enough when it comes to safety.
6- i dont understand how i supposedly offended you (if i did, my apologies). i never talked about my advantages of being a rich kid. i never said anything to offend anyone.
besides the off-topic statements, thanks for the helpful tips.
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OK, now I will actually try to be helpful
you want an evo, g35 (or Sti whatever that is) over a 5 - No way - The 530 is a great car - I plan to give mine to my daughter when she turns 16 (if I can not find the above mentioned cement mixer) - As fr as teh 545 vs 530 - does nto matter - both are fast enough to seriuosly hurt someone if not driven appropriately - so look at the options and color you want
if price is an issue the 530 will be cheaper
I do know what you mean about wanting something else besides a 5 - It is kind of an age thing IMHO -
here's how I sort of view it
0-15 - BMW diecast model
16-30 someting - 3 series
30something to 50 something - 5 series
50 something to ??? - 7 series
that being said the e60 is the best looking car out there
rememebr this is just an opinion and I do not want to offend anyone
BTW I read cattman's post as a compliment to you - it was not meant to offend
And we do get off topic alot - especailly if miis525i is involved in the post
AND finally I agree with your parents - the e60 is a safe car
you want an evo, g35 (or Sti whatever that is) over a 5 - No way - The 530 is a great car - I plan to give mine to my daughter when she turns 16 (if I can not find the above mentioned cement mixer) - As fr as teh 545 vs 530 - does nto matter - both are fast enough to seriuosly hurt someone if not driven appropriately - so look at the options and color you want
if price is an issue the 530 will be cheaper
I do know what you mean about wanting something else besides a 5 - It is kind of an age thing IMHO -
here's how I sort of view it
0-15 - BMW diecast model
16-30 someting - 3 series
30something to 50 something - 5 series
50 something to ??? - 7 series
that being said the e60 is the best looking car out there
rememebr this is just an opinion and I do not want to offend anyone
BTW I read cattman's post as a compliment to you - it was not meant to offend
And we do get off topic alot - especailly if miis525i is involved in the post
AND finally I agree with your parents - the e60 is a safe car