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07-31-2006, 12:33 AM
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Hi all
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
07-31-2006, 12:46 AM
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Hi! before i bought my 535d, i took one for a short test drive from the dealer, and i thought to myself - it aint as great as they say it is. But the reason is that when u go for a short drive u dont experience much of the middle range torque cause u are trying to drive the car fast through the gears. And the 535d moves - like u said - very quickly and easily thorugh the gears with no fuss. So u are doing 120km\h in no time inside the city without drama.
The 530d (i had one) has 1 big turbo and so has 1 kick at 2000 rpm and makes more fuss when accelerating - but thats also nice. thats what u experience and 'feel'like its almost as fast. The 535d has 2 kicks - 1 at 1500 and the other just past 2500.
u can chip your 530 and it will be a fast car. Or u can get a 535d and remap it and it will be a BEAST !!
Good luck.
The 530d (i had one) has 1 big turbo and so has 1 kick at 2000 rpm and makes more fuss when accelerating - but thats also nice. thats what u experience and 'feel'like its almost as fast. The 535d has 2 kicks - 1 at 1500 and the other just past 2500.
u can chip your 530 and it will be a fast car. Or u can get a 535d and remap it and it will be a BEAST !!
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by shiny' post='317164' date='Jul 31 2006, 09:33 AM
Hi all
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
07-31-2006, 04:42 AM
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� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
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Nice write-up. If you have a Ferrari Modena wud you want an Enzo? Hell yeah why not.
This comparo is a tiny bit like that, I never felt my 530d slow but the remap brought me a new car, will not compare mine w an oem 535d but the fact that turbo is on from 2000rpm and w 608Nm that is at least I call impressive. Of course now w 265hp it is a small beast, I know that as Alex was pushing my a$$ in Germany, but even like that if u got a 535d remapped I wud be really afraid. I do not yet can tell the tops as need big brakes -they will come sometimes - and then it is a different strory. But to end it here I am not regreting not getting for 12.000 extra money+VAT a second turbo 535d, although now I may get one, but I am happy w my 608Nm and a "bit" juiced up
This comparo is a tiny bit like that, I never felt my 530d slow but the remap brought me a new car, will not compare mine w an oem 535d but the fact that turbo is on from 2000rpm and w 608Nm that is at least I call impressive. Of course now w 265hp it is a small beast, I know that as Alex was pushing my a$$ in Germany, but even like that if u got a 535d remapped I wud be really afraid. I do not yet can tell the tops as need big brakes -they will come sometimes - and then it is a different strory. But to end it here I am not regreting not getting for 12.000 extra money+VAT a second turbo 535d, although now I may get one, but I am happy w my 608Nm and a "bit" juiced up
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Originally Posted by shiny' post='317164' date='Jul 31 2006, 11:33 AM
Hi all
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
One of my mates bought an 06 535d auto m-sport on the weekend, Silver Grey with black leather, a nice combo. What a great-looking car. Anyhow I had a drive in it yesterday, here are some observations compared to my car.
1: The 535d is undoubtedly faster than my car, figures do not lie. On my test route it was definitely quicker, by some margin. However in practical application, it didn't feel any faster, and the urgency my car exhibits didn't appear to be present. I put this down to my car having one big (higher pressure?) turbo, and the 535d having two smaller, lighter-pressure turbos. I would be interested in your thoughts on this.
High speed was attained with less fuss, less drama, which is likely why the car didn't feel faster than my 530d. My car has done 10k, the 535d 9k, so both should be run in. Having experienced the extra speed available from a 535d, I am tempted to remap my car.
2: I don't like Active Steering; maybe it grows on you, but I felt it was a bit light. The truck-like steering on mine feels more connected to the road.
3: I'm glad I have black wood as opposed to the alu cube. In fairness it looks good in a black interior, but with my light interior this would look awful.
3: HUD. I want this. Now. Best invention, ever. I will ebay a kidney.
Would I pay the premium over my 530d to get this car? Yes. Am I going to? Maybe, I think I will talk nicely to my dealer (and my bank manager) the next time my car is in for a service...
I have given my friend the URL of this forum, expect to see him sometime soon.
cheers
Shi
07-31-2006, 02:20 PM
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A question for those with the remapped 530d. Do you still have the clean exhaust pipes on the inside? I hate it when I follow a VAG PD diesel or a TDCi Mondeo or Focus that are spewing black fumes because they've been chipped and are overfuelled like crazy. If my 530d is to start smoking like the Queen Mary on full ahead I'm not doing it.
For the record, especially for those who have little experience with diesel - this is how the insides of my exhaust pipes look now. After 30k km I can still see the metal which I find amazing:
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480061.html
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480062.html
All petrol cars I've owned with fuel injection have black insides on the exhausts.
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For the record, especially for those who have little experience with diesel - this is how the insides of my exhaust pipes look now. After 30k km I can still see the metal which I find amazing:
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480061.html
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480062.html
All petrol cars I've owned with fuel injection have black insides on the exhausts.
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Had 530d 218hp and currently have 535d. The 530d did feel fast (er) with its initial surge of torque, however, the 535d has the same grunt all across the rev range and therefore doesn't feel "here we go then nothing after". Compare the 0-100mph for the auto 530 and 535 19.4secs compared to 15 secs. Don't get me wrong the 530d is worth every penny but so is the 535d. Especially remapped with 334hp 
0-100mph in 13.4. 
but so is the 535d. Especially remapped with 334hp 0-100mph in 13.4.
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Originally Posted by Merv the Derv' post='317752' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:57 PM
Had 530d 218hp and currently have 535d. The 530d did feel fast (er) with its initial surge of torque, however, the 535d has the same grunt all across the rev range and therefore doesn't feel "here we go then nothing after". Compare the 0-100mph for the auto 530 and 535 19.4secs compared to 15 secs. Don't get me wrong the 530d is worth every penny but so is the 535d. Especially remapped with 334hp 0-100mph in 13.4.
but so is the 535d. Especially remapped with 334hp 0-100mph in 13.4. 
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='317763' date='Aug 1 2006, 10:26 PM
0-100mph for the 545i?
I am not sure, I can never be bothered to hang around that long to find out!
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530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='317445' date='Aug 1 2006, 12:20 AM
A question for those with the remapped 530d. Do you still have the clean exhaust pipes on the inside? I hate it when I follow a VAG PD diesel or a TDCi Mondeo or Focus that are spewing black fumes because they've been chipped and are overfuelled like crazy. If my 530d is to start smoking like the Queen Mary on full ahead I'm not doing it.
For the record, especially for those who have little experience with diesel - this is how the insides of my exhaust pipes look now. After 30k km I can still see the metal which I find amazing:
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480061.html
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480062.html
All petrol cars I've owned with fuel injection have black insides on the exhausts.
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Przemek
For the record, especially for those who have little experience with diesel - this is how the insides of my exhaust pipes look now. After 30k km I can still see the metal which I find amazing:
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480061.html
http://auto.fotopic.net/p30480062.html
All petrol cars I've owned with fuel injection have black insides on the exhausts.
--
Przemek