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Old 03-08-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='400350' date='Mar 8 2007, 09:02 PM
"Who invaded and exploited whom?"
A Q more for the ex-Brittish commonwelth
We kept our independence, did you!
But still, Co2 is bad for the world, or is it?
I think you'll find Finland REGAINED its independence with some territorial loss. We've had the discussion before.

Indeed the UK is far from blameless in all the colonial exploitation, as are many former "EU" colonial powers.

The point is that do the emerging EASTERN economies deserve to be penalised (or allowed to catch up) to compensate for the west's realisation that "hey, the WEST got all this environmental stuff wrong and some of us are waking up"?

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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='400273' date='Mar 8 2007, 01:18 PM
Long way to go in US, yet...
No infra for deasent diesel but most of all, full lack of attitude and responsibility.

Maybe the North East academical people could go for it

What about California?
Thats perfect. I am an academic and live in the North East. And believe it or not, my next car will be a BMW Diesel.........
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This thread is going nowhere good fast... That said. I almost bought a e320cdi before purchasing this car. They had great pickup and diesel mileage. Currently where I live though Diesel costs about 30cents more at the pump taking away some of the gas mileage savings... That said... I'm not worried about the $400 or so I'd save each year driving a diesel. I love my gas v8.
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I'm interested in seeing some numbers... somewhere in this thread I've seen 5.5 sec 0 - 0 in a DMS(?) 535d but what about the normal 535d. What sort of performance and mileage are folks who have these cars seeing in real life use? Thanks~
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Originally Posted by BMWSTL' post='400025' date='Mar 8 2007, 01:27 AM
This was posted on March 6 on Autoblog.com:

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A US spec 535d?

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STL, maybe you should wait for the diesel? LOL 535i is kinda a diesel anyway.
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Originally Posted by pkh540' post='400489' date='Mar 9 2007, 04:03 AM
I'm interested in seeing some numbers... somewhere in this thread I've seen 5.5 sec 0 - 0 in a DMS(?) 535d but what about the normal 535d. What sort of performance and mileage are folks who have these cars seeing in real life use? Thanks~
I can't give you "real life" performance figures because, for me, that's a contradiction. In "real life" I just drive mine from A to B. But what drives!

Mileage - on a mainly motorway trip I get about 500-550 miles on a tankful. Purely around town this goes down to 400-450. Compared to other diesel engines the twin turbos make an impact on the fuel economy BUT the LCI engines are more economical.

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the lci 530xd will use average 7.0 liters/100 km.
performance is 0-100km/h 6.8 sec.
the lci 530d will do this at 6.6 sec and use an average of 6.6 liters/100 km

with a chip on these the performance will be almost near 6.0 sec. (visit ant&pete and you will perform under 6 sec )

and this is the good part, with a performance chip you gain alot in both hp, torque and performance when doing this on a diesel.
doing this on a petrol fueled car you will gain NADA.
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Originally Posted by 530xda' post='400596' date='Mar 9 2007, 04:53 AM
the lci 530xd will use average 7.0 liters/100 km.
performance is 0-100km/h 6.8 sec.
the lci 530d will do this at 6.6 sec and use an average of 6.6 liters/100 km

with a chip on these the performance will be almost near 6.0 sec. (visit ant&pete and you will perform under 6 sec )

and this is the good part, with a performance chip you gain alot in both hp, torque and performance when doing this on a diesel.
doing this on a petrol fueled car you will gain NADA.
This has nothing to do with petrol (gas) and diesel differences. It has everything to do with having turbos. Since BMW now makes gas turbos, this is not a difference.

I for one am excited that BMW is bringing diesels to the US. We have the infrastructure - VW can't keep diesels in stock and resale is amazing.
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in EU a lot of companies insist their company car drivers take diesels, primarily driven by fuel costs (fuel cards). this is certainly the case in Germany. what's the whole company car situation like in the states - do they have a big influence on car sales and choice of engine?
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Originally Posted by CVTBenhogan' post='400507' date='Mar 8 2007, 10:50 PM
STL, maybe you should wait for the diesel? LOL 535i is kinda a diesel anyway.
Cute.

Although the diesel will be a good car for the US, a diesel engine isn't on my radar screen for a while. ULSD is hard to track down near where I live and work. Although the US is changing over, stations are not mandated to carry ULSD for a couple of years, and a lot around me have the older 500 ppm stuff. Put that in an '07 or later diesel, and your car won't run. Plus, my driving is only around 10k/year right now, and the fuel savings diesel affords when contrasted with the extra acquisition cost just doesn't seem worth it. Although what BMW will charge for a diesel compared with other cars in the same model range is unknown, if BMW follows Mercedes' pricing, expect to pay $1k more for the same car with a diesel (look at the E320 BlueTec vs the E350).

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