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Old 10-02-2017, 06:33 PM   #1
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Default 06 530xiT No crank no start after locksmith

So, was working on converting the tailgate from Auto to manual and ended up locking my only key in the cargo area...

Had a locksmith come out, they unlocked the car by pulling on the door handle from the inside. Alarm went off and turned off before I could get the key. Unlocked it, thought nothing of it, and went back to work.

Fast forward to this morning, car tried to crank, but didn't start. Every time after that, it's been a no crank no start. Everything else still works. Took the battery to AutoZone, they said it was good and showing a 75% charge. I took a voltmeter to it and it was showing 12.65v.

Reinstalled the battery and now I'm getting the 4x4 and DSC malfunction on top of it refusing to start...

I have a starter on the way, but besides that, does anyone have an idea as to what else it could be? Does the immobilizer somehow need to be reset?

Thanks for any help.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:31 AM   #2
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Skipped the gym this morning to run my one free iCarly report:

Fault Report - Carly for BMW - Version: 25.30 LV
ID1: b59c6e34-fa09-4a85-a3f4-018b099e923b-855 ID2: 83f206b4-cc6a-4a13-8f0b-6effc7745ae0-e30-6bfe4021112e0717
INFO: 020DE4D3C3BEAA947F71634B3E2DE
Base: E60 E61
Build-Year: 2006
Faults: 5
ECUs: 35
Filter: just found
Model: 5 Touring (E61) Automatic engine recognition (MotorID=91, Parameter=28)
Battery: 11.0V
ADDITIONAL OBD: OFF
Normal communication
Normal connection
normal
B 1
Date: 2017-10-03 05:38:47
OBDII
Version: 26
Device: >Google< >marlin< >Pixel XL<
Motor Control:
Engine / Motor
ECU OK, no Fault Code
ABS / DSC / Brake:
Active Roll Stabilization / Rollstabilisierung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Dynamische Stabilitaets Kontrolle / DSC
Steering angle sensor
Code: 005EBA
Airbag:
Advanced Crash and Safety Management (ACSM)
Driver Headrest
Code: 0093F9
Satellite front left door / Tuer vorne links
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Satellite front right door / Tuer vorne rechts
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Satellite B-pillar left / B-Saeule links
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Satellite B-pillar right / B-Saeule rechts
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Satellite center / Mitte
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Airbag B-pillar left/ B-Saeule links
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Airbag B-pillar right/ B-Saeule rechts
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Transmission Control:
Transmission / Getriebe GS 19
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Transmission / Getriebesteuerung
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Gear switch / Gangschalter
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Instrument cluster:
Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Central info display / Zentrales Display
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Head-Up Display
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Light/Rain Control:
Light / Licht
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Rain/light sensor / Regen-Lichtsensor RLS
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Light / Licht
ECU OK, no Fault Code
High-beam / Fernlichtassistent
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Heating / AC:
Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
Short circuit to positive or open circuit (AUC)
Code: 009C54
Additional heater / Zusatzheizung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Immobilizer System:
CAS
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Park distance control:
Park Distance Control / PDC
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Cruise Control:
Active cruise control / Aktive Geschwindigkeitsregelung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Sunroof / Roof:
Sunroof / Schiebedach
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Audio/Navi/Communication:
Multimedia-Changer / Wechsler
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Speech recognition / Spracherkennungs-system
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Phone / Telefon
GPS module fault
Code: 00A36B
Hifi Amplifier / Verstaerker
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Tuner Antenna / Antenne
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Hybrid Radio USA
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Digital Satellite-Tuner USA
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Headphones / Kopfhoerer Schnittstelle
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Navigation
ECU not present/no response from ECU
CD-Changer / Wechsler
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Audio-System
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Video
ECU not present/no response from ECU
DAB
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Seats:
Backrest width / Lehnenbreiteverstellung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Backrest width / Lehnenbreiteverstellung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Seats / Sitze
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Seats / Sitze
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Systems:
Gateway
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Steering column switch / Lenkstockschalter
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Tire pressure control / Reifendruck Kontrolle
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Passive Go System
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Power Module
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Night Vision
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Flexible Bus-Interface / Schnittstelle
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Car Communication Computer CCC
Message failure
Code: 00E18F
MASK
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Center-Konsole
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Night Vision Camera
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Car Communication
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Anti-theft alarm system:
Interior protection / Innenraumschutz
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Theft alarm / Diebstahl Warnanlage
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Chassis:
Air suspension / Luftfederung
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Electronic damper / Elektronische Daempfer
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Central Control / Zentrale Bedieneinheit
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Body:
Automatisches Front Steering
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Trailer / Anhaenger
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Car Body Module
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Tailgate / Hecktuer
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Other:


With CAS showing fine, I'm going to assume it is indeed the starter. I've checked any fuse that deals with engine/ignition/fuel and they all appear fine. I'll most likely pick up a battery charger as well on my way home from work just to keep the battery charged while I wait.

If anyone has any other guesses as to what the issue could possibly be, I'm all ears.
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Old 10-03-2017, 04:53 AM   #3
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Where you having issues with the starter starting. I would get a hammer to hit it to see if it starts.
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Where you having issues with the starter starting. I would get a hammer to hit it to see if it starts.
If I remember correctly, the wagon failed to start the first time once for the month that I've owned it.

Won't hurt to bang on the starter in the meantime, I suppose.
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I had my starter go out while I was out of country and my wife was driving it. I think it just went out without warning but then again my wife tells me nothing until it just doesn't work. Since then I have learned how to rebuild starters which is very easy and takes about 30 mins. I would suggest that if the starter is your issue. The kit costs around $30 and it is worth it. My first time I had no idea what I was doing. I just payed attention on how I took it apart and replaced the parts in the kit. It saved me $300 and every since then I rebuild instead of buying reman or new
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I had my starter go out while I was out of country and my wife was driving it. I think it just went out without warning but then again my wife tells me nothing until it just doesn't work. Since then I have learned how to rebuild starters which is very easy and takes about 30 mins. I would suggest that if the starter is your issue. The kit costs around $30 and it is worth it. My first time I had no idea what I was doing. I just payed attention on how I took it apart and replaced the parts in the kit. It saved me $300 and every since then I rebuild instead of buying reman or new
Thanks for the heads up just in case I ever need to do this again.

I was lucky enough to find one off of Amazon for $50 and it should be here tomorrow.
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Update.

Took the battery to Autozone. They said it was good. Took it home, tested it with my voltmeter and it was showing around 12.65.

Re-aligned the CAS on INPA and it showed good. Let the battery trickle charge overnight. Still nothing.

So hopefully it is indeed the starter as I'm changing it out today!
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Where you having issues with the starter starting. I would get a hammer to hit it to see if it starts.
For the record, hitting a modern starter with a hammer is a bad idea. Back in the 'old days' field coils were used for the stationary magnetic field. New ones use ferrite magnets that will break if you belt the starter with a hammer. JSYK.
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As far as I know to even reach the starter in the N52, I have to take the intake manifold off.

If I'm gonna be doing that much work, I'll just replace the damn thing.
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For the record, hitting a modern starter with a hammer is a bad idea. Back in the 'old days' field coils were used for the stationary magnetic field. New ones use ferrite magnets that will break if you belt the starter with a hammer. JSYK.
PMGR starters can handle the taps. If you are banging on it then you don't know what your are doing in the first place. Do PMGR have ferrite magnets? I don't think they do but I can be wrong.
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