Special Paint Sealant Ive been hearing about?
05-26-2005, 12:26 PM
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I've waxed with AutoGlym Super Resin Polish and every time I've put on one or several more layers of their Extra Gloss Protection sealant. So far I'm very impressed, and I'm having a hard time finding a car with fewer swirl marks than mine 
Although, the sealant hasn't really passed the greatest test - washing after extensive summer driving. After 1500kms this week I'll find out as soon as I was the car, but it seems that bugs will slip off like a dream.
Although, the sealant hasn't really passed the greatest test - washing after extensive summer driving. After 1500kms this week I'll find out as soon as I was the car, but it seems that bugs will slip off like a dream.
05-26-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BMW#4' date='May 26 2005, 12:02 PM
[quote name='jsal' date='May 26 2005, 06:50 PM']Everytime I have purchased a car, the dealer wants to put on the paint sealant, leather protector, carpet protector...
I had done it once about 10 years ago and although it may have changed, I believe they are normal products and you really are buying a warranty.? The paint sealant is probably a synthetic wax, although good I don't think there is anyway around normal paint care:? washing and waxing.
IMO, and maybe I am old school,? if you want your car to look good, you have to maintain it.? Waxing product opinions are like elbows - everybody has two.? I have talked to a couple different wax companies from various industry tradeshows, and here is what I have learned:
The synthetic waxes are better for UV protection and much easier/faster to apply.? Carnuba is better for bird droppings, bugs and fallout as it leaves a heavier film.? Typically it gives a deeper look.
You mentioned swirls.? I did some research on paint swirls with my dark colored Yukon:? Swirls on dark colors are just a fact of life.? You can minimize them by proper washing techniques (hose off the road grime and wash from top to bottom)and using wool or chenil cotton mits and Microfiber towels (don't use a chamios - they basically squeegy the paint and can pull wax off the surface).? When you get the swirls you can hide them with polish or remove them with a scratch remover.
The clear coat is basically to protect the paint.? I doubt there is something that you can put on once to protect the clear coat.
I use Carnuba on my Yukon that sits in the garage most of the week, but gets alot of abuse on trips and Synthetic on my BMW that sits out in the sun all day long.
I had done it once about 10 years ago and although it may have changed, I believe they are normal products and you really are buying a warranty.? The paint sealant is probably a synthetic wax, although good I don't think there is anyway around normal paint care:? washing and waxing.
IMO, and maybe I am old school,? if you want your car to look good, you have to maintain it.? Waxing product opinions are like elbows - everybody has two.? I have talked to a couple different wax companies from various industry tradeshows, and here is what I have learned:
The synthetic waxes are better for UV protection and much easier/faster to apply.? Carnuba is better for bird droppings, bugs and fallout as it leaves a heavier film.? Typically it gives a deeper look.
You mentioned swirls.? I did some research on paint swirls with my dark colored Yukon:? Swirls on dark colors are just a fact of life.? You can minimize them by proper washing techniques (hose off the road grime and wash from top to bottom)and using wool or chenil cotton mits and Microfiber towels (don't use a chamios - they basically squeegy the paint and can pull wax off the surface).? When you get the swirls you can hide them with polish or remove them with a scratch remover.
The clear coat is basically to protect the paint.? I doubt there is something that you can put on once to protect the clear coat.
I use Carnuba on my Yukon that sits in the garage most of the week, but gets alot of abuse on trips and Synthetic on my BMW that sits out in the sun all day long.
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Do you also advise against using a chamois to dry the car after washing?
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[/quote]According the the so-called experts, do not use a chamois to dry - only micro fiber towels.
I have used a chamois for years and later switched to a synthetic version, but that was on a white vehicle. I loved the way they worked. On my dark vehicle, after a year and a half (I wax 3x per year with carnuba) I noticed the swirls in the sunlight. So I checked with a couple detailing sources. All of them recommended against the chamois. The problem with a chamois is that it will pull on the finish and remove wax as well as can trap particals that will cause swirling.
The micro fibers work great. I use two at a time - one as a wet to remove most of the water, the second for the final dry. I got a couple of big packages of them from Cost Co. I only use them for once, then wash the whole batch.
One caution, they pick up stuff really easily, so if you drop them or put them in a wicker basket, they will pick up dirt/chips.
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Originally Posted by jsal' date='May 27 2005, 12:00 AM
[quote name='BMW#4' date='May 26 2005, 12:02 PM'][quote name='jsal' date='May 26 2005, 06:50 PM']Everytime I have purchased a car, the dealer wants to put on the paint sealant, leather protector, carpet protector...
I had done it once about 10 years ago and although it may have changed, I believe they are normal products and you really are buying a warranty.? The paint sealant is probably a synthetic wax, although good I don't think there is anyway around normal paint care:? washing and waxing.
IMO, and maybe I am old school,? if you want your car to look good, you have to maintain it.? Waxing product opinions are like elbows - everybody has two.? I have talked to a couple different wax companies from various industry tradeshows, and here is what I have learned:
The synthetic waxes are better for UV protection and much easier/faster to apply.? Carnuba is better for bird droppings, bugs and fallout as it leaves a heavier film.? Typically it gives a deeper look.
You mentioned swirls.? I did some research on paint swirls with my dark colored Yukon:? Swirls on dark colors are just a fact of life.? You can minimize them by proper washing techniques (hose off the road grime and wash from top to bottom)and using wool or chenil cotton mits and Microfiber towels (don't use a chamios - they basically squeegy the paint and can pull wax off the surface).? When you get the swirls you can hide them with polish or remove them with a scratch remover.
The clear coat is basically to protect the paint.? I doubt there is something that you can put on once to protect the clear coat.
I use Carnuba on my Yukon that sits in the garage most of the week, but gets alot of abuse on trips and Synthetic on my BMW that sits out in the sun all day long.
I had done it once about 10 years ago and although it may have changed, I believe they are normal products and you really are buying a warranty.? The paint sealant is probably a synthetic wax, although good I don't think there is anyway around normal paint care:? washing and waxing.
IMO, and maybe I am old school,? if you want your car to look good, you have to maintain it.? Waxing product opinions are like elbows - everybody has two.? I have talked to a couple different wax companies from various industry tradeshows, and here is what I have learned:
The synthetic waxes are better for UV protection and much easier/faster to apply.? Carnuba is better for bird droppings, bugs and fallout as it leaves a heavier film.? Typically it gives a deeper look.
You mentioned swirls.? I did some research on paint swirls with my dark colored Yukon:? Swirls on dark colors are just a fact of life.? You can minimize them by proper washing techniques (hose off the road grime and wash from top to bottom)and using wool or chenil cotton mits and Microfiber towels (don't use a chamios - they basically squeegy the paint and can pull wax off the surface).? When you get the swirls you can hide them with polish or remove them with a scratch remover.
The clear coat is basically to protect the paint.? I doubt there is something that you can put on once to protect the clear coat.
I use Carnuba on my Yukon that sits in the garage most of the week, but gets alot of abuse on trips and Synthetic on my BMW that sits out in the sun all day long.
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Do you also advise against using a chamois to dry the car after washing?
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[/quote]According the the so-called experts, do not use a chamois to dry - only micro fiber towels.
I have used a chamois for years and later switched to a synthetic version, but that was on a white vehicle. I loved the way they worked. On my dark vehicle, after a year and a half (I wax 3x per year with carnuba) I noticed the swirls in the sunlight. So I checked with a couple detailing sources. All of them recommended against the chamois. The problem with a chamois is that it will pull on the finish and remove wax as well as can trap particals that will cause swirling.
The micro fibers work great. I use two at a time - one as a wet to remove most of the water, the second for the final dry. I got a couple of big packages of them from Cost Co. I only use them for once, then wash the whole batch.
One caution, they pick up stuff really easily, so if you drop them or put them in a wicker basket, they will pick up dirt/chips.
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[/quote]Thanks jsal, that is really useful info & it makes good sense
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I have used a chamois for years and later switched to a synthetic version, but that was on a white vehicle. I loved the way they worked. On my dark vehicle, after a year and a half (I wax 3x per year with carnuba) I noticed the swirls in the sunlight. So I checked with a couple detailing sources. All of them recommended against the chamois. The problem with a chamois is that it will pull on the finish and remove wax as well as can trap particals that will cause swirling.
The micro fibers work great. I use two at a time - one as a wet to remove most of the water, the second for the final dry. I got a couple of big packages of them from Cost Co. I only use them for once, then wash the whole batch.
One caution, they pick up stuff really easily, so if you drop them or put them in a wicker basket, they will pick up dirt/chips.
Thanks again jsal!
I went out & bought some microfibre towels.
The stuff is amazing!
So much better than chamois.
Thanks for converting me right at the beginning of my E60's life
The micro fibers work great. I use two at a time - one as a wet to remove most of the water, the second for the final dry. I got a couple of big packages of them from Cost Co. I only use them for once, then wash the whole batch.
One caution, they pick up stuff really easily, so if you drop them or put them in a wicker basket, they will pick up dirt/chips.
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[/quote]Thanks again jsal!
I went out & bought some microfibre towels.
The stuff is amazing!
So much better than chamois.
Thanks for converting me right at the beginning of my E60's life
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Originally Posted by stream' date='May 26 2005, 02:11 PM
[quote name='jsal' date='May 26 2005, 12:02 PM'][quote name='gwf545' date='May 26 2005, 10:09 AM']Go here:? http://www.corrosionx.com/rejex.html It is mentioned in detail elsewhere on this board.? Good stuff, I use it.
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[/quote]I've used Rejex for a few years on my cars--but not on the painted surfaces. For that, I use One Grand Blitz wax--high quality carnauba, very easy application/removal, great depth of shine and color, and lasts a long time (several months).
I use Rejex on the windshield (minimizes bug splats), wheels (minimizes brake dust build up), and on the exhaust tips (minimizes yellowing and black crud build up). And all those surfaces, whatever dirt build up does occur cleans very easily.
Rejex is great on high heat applications (like wheels and exhaust tips) since it was developed for military aerospace applications, and won't break down under high heat like waxes do. When I first bought it, I tried it on my front bumper (thinking it would help minimize bug splats there), but the application/removal process was quite a bit more difficult than Blitz wax, so I now only use it on the windshield, wheels and exhaust tips. The other reason I prefer carnauba wax on the painted surfaces is that it has better depth of color and shine, whereas the synthetics (Rejex, Zaino, etc.) look more plasticy.
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[/quote]Next to the "more plasticy" look, and the extra effort of Rejex, is Rejex still good to put on my paint? How about the high gloss (black) trim?
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Originally Posted by paasan' date='May 26 2005, 02:26 PM
I've waxed with AutoGlym Super Resin Polish and every time I've put on one or several more layers of their Extra Gloss Protection sealant. So far I'm very impressed, and I'm having a hard time finding a car with fewer swirl marks than mine
Although, the sealant hasn't really passed the greatest test - washing after extensive summer driving. After 1500kms this week I'll find out as soon as I was the car, but it seems that bugs will slip off like a dream.
Although, the sealant hasn't really passed the greatest test - washing after extensive summer driving. After 1500kms this week I'll find out as soon as I was the car, but it seems that bugs will slip off like a dream.
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Originally Posted by Canada545' date='May 31 2005, 10:39 AM
[quote name='stream' date='May 26 2005, 02:11 PM'][quote name='jsal' date='May 26 2005, 12:02 PM'][quote name='gwf545' date='May 26 2005, 10:09 AM']Go here:? http://www.corrosionx.com/rejex.html It is mentioned in detail elsewhere on this board.? Good stuff, I use it.
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[/quote]I've used Rejex for a few years on my cars--but not on the painted surfaces. For that, I use One Grand Blitz wax--high quality carnauba, very easy application/removal, great depth of shine and color, and lasts a long time (several months).
I use Rejex on the windshield (minimizes bug splats), wheels (minimizes brake dust build up), and on the exhaust tips (minimizes yellowing and black crud build up). And all those surfaces, whatever dirt build up does occur cleans very easily.
Rejex is great on high heat applications (like wheels and exhaust tips) since it was developed for military aerospace applications, and won't break down under high heat like waxes do. When I first bought it, I tried it on my front bumper (thinking it would help minimize bug splats there), but the application/removal process was quite a bit more difficult than Blitz wax, so I now only use it on the windshield, wheels and exhaust tips. The other reason I prefer carnauba wax on the painted surfaces is that it has better depth of color and shine, whereas the synthetics (Rejex, Zaino, etc.) look more plasticy.
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[/quote]Next to the "more plasticy" look, and the extra effort of Rejex, is Rejex still good to put on my paint? How about the high gloss (black) trim?
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[/quote]Many people use it on their entire car, instead of wax.
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