Black E46 detailed - 20hrs polishing + Wet Sanding
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Originally Posted by Piloti' post='577553' date='May 10 2008, 02:30 AM
Keith,
Very nice work, outstanding results!
I'm also working on stone chips on my Jet black E60. I was not going to attempt the wet sanding until I saw your post, now I'm not so sure.
The BMW paint chip repair kit comes with clear coat, I'm not sure when I would apply it. I would think it would be after the paint polishing to remove the sanding marks. Would I need to sand again after the clear coat is applied?
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Very nice work, outstanding results!
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I'm also working on stone chips on my Jet black E60. I was not going to attempt the wet sanding until I saw your post, now I'm not so sure.
The BMW paint chip repair kit comes with clear coat, I'm not sure when I would apply it. I would think it would be after the paint polishing to remove the sanding marks. Would I need to sand again after the clear coat is applied?
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I mixed the paint and the lacquer (75% paint and 25% lacquer) in a small bottle and used a art brush to touch up the stone chips, this 75:25 dilution will not affect the original colour and given the durability as well. Two things you need to be aware, the first thing is to clean the area that you going to work in (I used clay to shift all the dirts out, some people use paint thinner but i think its to abrasive so i used the clay instead), secondly, make sure the touched up surface fully dried before wet sand it.
Fianlly, make sure you get some 2000,2500,3000 grit (Or finer) sanding paper and a decent sanding backing pads.
Goodluck with your sanding job mate
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Originally Posted by keith84_uk' post='577703' date='May 10 2008, 07:18 AM
Thanks for that
I mixed the paint and the lacquer (75% paint and 25% lacquer) in a small bottle and used a art brush to touch up the stone chips, this 75:25 dilution will not affect the original colour and given the durability as well. Two things you need to be aware, the first thing is to clean the area that you going to work in (I used clay to shift all the dirts out, some people use paint thinner but i think its to abrasive so i used the clay instead), secondly, make sure the touched up surface fully dried before wet sand it.
Fianlly, make sure you get some 2000,2500,3000 grit (Or finer) sanding paper and a decent sanding backing pads.
Goodluck with your sanding job mate
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I mixed the paint and the lacquer (75% paint and 25% lacquer) in a small bottle and used a art brush to touch up the stone chips, this 75:25 dilution will not affect the original colour and given the durability as well. Two things you need to be aware, the first thing is to clean the area that you going to work in (I used clay to shift all the dirts out, some people use paint thinner but i think its to abrasive so i used the clay instead), secondly, make sure the touched up surface fully dried before wet sand it.
Fianlly, make sure you get some 2000,2500,3000 grit (Or finer) sanding paper and a decent sanding backing pads.
Goodluck with your sanding job mate
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I didn't think of that, thanks.
Besides the clay, did you use a 'paint prep'? I think it's a solvent to remove any surface contaminants.
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Originally Posted by keith84_uk' post='576132' date='May 7 2008, 06:39 PM
Hi guys,
Just wanna share what i've done recently, the car has some serious scratches and require some wet sanding to bring it back to shine. I've spent 20hrs on polishing alone but still can't get it perfect, i would say the car is now 90% corrected but some scratches are so deep and can not removed even with wet sanding! Most parts require 2 or 3 passes with Menzerna 3.02 thanks to the hard BMW paint and then followed by 106FF.
Here are the product that i used and some pictures during and after.
Wash & Clay:
Superspray
Meguiars Hyper wash
CG Citus snow foam
ShMitt
Sonus clay (Green)
Serious performance quick detailer as lube
CG Orange degreaser
Wheels:
Bilberry acidic free wheel cleaner (A lot cheaper than P21s with same performance)
Swissvaz wheel brush
Extra long wheel brush
Bottle brush for arches
Long reach brush for door sills
CG orange degreaser
Poorboy wheel sealant x2 coats
Sanding:
Meg sanding backing pad
Unigrid 2000
Unigrid 3000
Polishing:
G220 (Thinking of rotary![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
Lake country CCS yellow
CCS Green
Menzerna S34A
Menz 3.02
Menz 106FF
SP QD
LSP:
Dodo juice Lime prime lite (Pre-wax cleaner)
Raceglaze 55 wax (Very impressed with this wax, i would rate it over Dodo supernatural)
Car was washed 2days ago but the dirty rain (sand mixed rain) last night make it filthy again
Attachment 49950
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Extra long wheel brush in action
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Swissvax wheel brush
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CG degreaser on door sills & fuel cap
Attachment 49956
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Attachment 49958
Car then foamed with Meg hyper wash + CG citus snow foam
Attachment 49959
Then clayed with sonus green (Pic shown clayed after bonnet)
Attachment 49960
Swirls & RDS everywhere
Attachment 49961
Road paint spitted on the side skirt, tar remover can't do the job so must be wet sand it
Attachment 49963
Wet sanded
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Menz power gloss to remove the wet sanding marks followed by few passes of 3.02 and 106FF
Attachment 49966
Attachment 49967
Fenix P3D Cree LED torch (Great for spotting swirls
)
Attachment 49968
Abrasive polish must be work until it's clear like pic shown below
Attachment 49969
Few polished pics before LSP
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Car then washed again to remove the polsih dust
Attachment 49974
Lime prime lite and raceglaze 55 wax then applied
Attachment 49975
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Let the wax cure for 10mins
Attachment 49977
And finally, some finished pictures
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Any suggestion/comment welcomed
Cheers
Keith
Just wanna share what i've done recently, the car has some serious scratches and require some wet sanding to bring it back to shine. I've spent 20hrs on polishing alone but still can't get it perfect, i would say the car is now 90% corrected but some scratches are so deep and can not removed even with wet sanding! Most parts require 2 or 3 passes with Menzerna 3.02 thanks to the hard BMW paint and then followed by 106FF.
Here are the product that i used and some pictures during and after.
Wash & Clay:
Superspray
Meguiars Hyper wash
CG Citus snow foam
ShMitt
Sonus clay (Green)
Serious performance quick detailer as lube
CG Orange degreaser
Wheels:
Bilberry acidic free wheel cleaner (A lot cheaper than P21s with same performance)
Swissvaz wheel brush
Extra long wheel brush
Bottle brush for arches
Long reach brush for door sills
CG orange degreaser
Poorboy wheel sealant x2 coats
Sanding:
Meg sanding backing pad
Unigrid 2000
Unigrid 3000
Polishing:
G220 (Thinking of rotary
![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
Lake country CCS yellow
CCS Green
Menzerna S34A
Menz 3.02
Menz 106FF
SP QD
LSP:
Dodo juice Lime prime lite (Pre-wax cleaner)
Raceglaze 55 wax (Very impressed with this wax, i would rate it over Dodo supernatural)
Car was washed 2days ago but the dirty rain (sand mixed rain) last night make it filthy again
![Getlost](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/getlost.gif)
Attachment 49950
Attachment 49951
Attachment 49952
Attachment 49953
Extra long wheel brush in action
Attachment 49954
Swissvax wheel brush
Attachment 49955
CG degreaser on door sills & fuel cap
Attachment 49956
Attachment 49957
Attachment 49958
Car then foamed with Meg hyper wash + CG citus snow foam
Attachment 49959
Then clayed with sonus green (Pic shown clayed after bonnet)
Attachment 49960
Swirls & RDS everywhere
![Frown](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/sad.gif)
Attachment 49961
Road paint spitted on the side skirt, tar remover can't do the job so must be wet sand it
Attachment 49963
Wet sanded
Attachment 49964
Attachment 49965
Menz power gloss to remove the wet sanding marks followed by few passes of 3.02 and 106FF
Attachment 49966
Attachment 49967
Fenix P3D Cree LED torch (Great for spotting swirls
![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
Attachment 49968
Abrasive polish must be work until it's clear like pic shown below
Attachment 49969
Few polished pics before LSP
Attachment 49970
Attachment 49971
Attachment 49972
Attachment 49973
Car then washed again to remove the polsih dust
Attachment 49974
Lime prime lite and raceglaze 55 wax then applied
Attachment 49975
Attachment 49976
Let the wax cure for 10mins
Attachment 49977
And finally, some finished pictures
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Any suggestion/comment welcomed
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Cheers
Keith
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Hey Keith:
Two Words: SHOW OFF!!!! (LOL, I am envious!!)
Just kidding, but seriously, that is one awesome wax Job!! I wish I could get mine to shine that good!! That is one of the deepest blacks I have ever seen!!! Do you like zymbol wax?
Your e60 friend,
Eddie Presley
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Toyota MR-S 1.8 VVTI , Lagoon Blue with Red leather Air Con 15" standard alloys with Toyo tyres
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Thanks Eddie
Havent used any Zym0l wax yet, but i think unless you go with their top end waxes like concours or destiny, otherwise you will not be satisfied with their lower end waxes eg Carbon (More importantly, there are plenty of choices on the market offering better look with much lower price)
eg Victoria wax, clearkote, Zaino...etc
I have been asked to do my mate's black Alfa 147 next week (if the weather allowed
), and i am going to use my favour wax Swissvax concorso, hope i can take more pics this time and post on here (As i only got 7hrs to do the job including washing,claying...etc, the car is badly swirled with few deep scratches
)
To be honest, there are no much difference between the $300 wax and the $30 wax (Especially for people dont know care about cars eg my mum, girlfriend
)
But if you are car nuts or amateur like me, and want to buy "ONE" decent wax at affordable/reasonable price, it must be Swissvax concorso (My opinion)
Cheers
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Havent used any Zym0l wax yet, but i think unless you go with their top end waxes like concours or destiny, otherwise you will not be satisfied with their lower end waxes eg Carbon (More importantly, there are plenty of choices on the market offering better look with much lower price)
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I have been asked to do my mate's black Alfa 147 next week (if the weather allowed
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To be honest, there are no much difference between the $300 wax and the $30 wax (Especially for people dont know care about cars eg my mum, girlfriend
![Laughing](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/laughing.gif)
But if you are car nuts or amateur like me, and want to buy "ONE" decent wax at affordable/reasonable price, it must be Swissvax concorso (My opinion)
Cheers
Keith
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Great job Keith! You could eat off of that trunk!
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Nice work mate, wish I knew where to ever begin on bringing my paint back up to that standard, most of these detailing threads go straight over my head im afraid
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