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Old 04-11-2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by paul1994' post='559777' date='Apr 11 2008, 06:48 PM
[b][i]06/24/2003 Ohio Motor Vehicle Dept. Lewis Center, OH
Title #2100402321 Dealer took title of this vehicle
while it was in inventory
MANUFACTURER BUYBACK
OR LEMON REPORTED
Can someone explain what that means to everyone in the UK?

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Originally Posted by paul1994' post='559820' date='Apr 11 2008, 02:53 PM
I feel the same to a certain extent but I did sign a contract to state it was in in an accident that cost more than $2000, but How can you find out if the car was in an accident that cost more than $2000.

The car looked mint or I would not have bought it.

I also did a pre-buyers inspection after I bought the car and The Audi dealership did not find anything wrong with the car after I bought it..
If Audi did an inspection that you paid for there might be recourse to the Audi dealer. You relied on their inspection.
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Originally Posted by JETBLACK530I' post='559817' date='Apr 11 2008, 02:47 PM
If the contract is signed and they took possesion of it then it is now there problem. they should have checked the carfax before you signed it over to them.
If he said "to the best of purchasers knowledge" instead of the "the purchaser guarantees" the car was never in a car accident... It would have been better.
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Originally Posted by pa550' post='559973' date='Apr 11 2008, 05:39 PM
I think you're screwed. You signed a contract guaranteeing that it wasn't in an accident. The only way to have protected yourself was if the contract had a knowledge qualifier in it - something along the lines of "to the seller's knowledge, the car hasn't been in an accident". The buying dealer is able to rely on your representation. You probably have recourse against the dealer from whom you bought it, though.
carfax states that it reports accident that cost $500 dollars in above, so that is what is one the carfax.

it does not say anything about how much the repairs were? so it could have been a minor fender bender and they repainted the bumper.
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Did you look at your sales contract from the Acura dealership you purchased the Audi from? Does it state anything regarding the condition of the Audi or does it just say sold AS-IS?
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I will disclose your whole situation first to the Ford dealership (if you haven't done so already), then come into contact with your previous Acura Dealership. Maybe you can find a contract you signed there that may have stated the car to be accident free and what not.

Best of luck to you, I hope everything clears up.
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Originally Posted by 5er Sport' post='560039' date='Apr 11 2008, 05:47 PM
Did you look at your sales contract from the Acura dealership you purchased the Audi from? Does it state anything regarding the condition of the Audi or does it just say sold AS-IS?

After looking at the acura sales slip there is no condition claused. and it is sold as is..
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Unless they have evidence (in hand) that the accident resulted in damages exceeding $2,000 - the dealer that took the Audi in trade now has a problem. They are renegging on the agreement to accept the trade - and merely assuming that the damages exceed $2,000. It is not your burden to prove or disprove until they establish the $2,000 threshold - and their assumption (without proof) could be considered evidence of bad faith on their part. You may want to check your state's laws on unfair or deceptive trade practices.
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you stated that Acura had inspected the car (your Audi) for you prior to you purchasing it... within all your Acura/Audi paper work does it show anywhere that the car was inspected by them and approved and found to be clean of accidents? it might help your case if you have this info available....

but the "sold as-is" might be a problem too.

you could probably try going back to the Acura dealer and ask them to contact the previous owner and ask a couple questions...

but as already stated, it seems like its Ford's problem. you werent aware of any history with the Audi

goodluck and post updates
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Originally Posted by Slowhand11404' post='560098' date='Apr 11 2008, 09:15 PM
Unless they have evidence (in hand) that the accident resulted in damages exceeding $2,000 - the dealer that took the Audi in trade now has a problem. They are renegging on the agreement to accept the trade - and merely assuming that the damages exceed $2,000. It is not your burden to prove or disprove until they establish the $2,000 threshold - and their assumption (without proof) could be considered evidence of bad faith on their part. You may want to check your state's laws on unfair or deceptive trade practices.

My two cents worth. The selling dealer should have disclosed the dealer buy-back or lemon. You should check with your state attorney general's office on this.

Second , when you bought the 545i and traded the audi in( audi right?)you signed documents that asked you of your awareness of any of the following. If none of the itmes happened while you owned it and none were disclosed to you before you bought it then you did nothing illegal.

Third and most important: the buying dealer has every right to protect their transaction and validate the true value. The dealer for free and to protect themselves could have pulled a CARFAX and did not.

Question: If the original dealer that sold you the car pulled a car fax and it was clean then the car is guarrenteed. Can you locate the original CARFAX? Is it in a file somewhere?



I would not buy the car back and wold simply says you presented everything that you were aware of.


On the other hand if you knew about some of it, then suck it up.


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