Thinking of Buying this 2004 545i with 34K miles
10-04-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by daveyv' post='477655' date='Oct 3 2007, 05:32 PM
I've been lurking on this forum for a while learning about the E60 and I'm ready to take the plunge. I've found a well priced ($35K) example with 34K miles on it with Logic 7, NAV, AS, Sport Package, and Winter Package, but I'm a little concerned that the large amount of warranty work done indicates a potentially problematic car. Your thoughts on the following would be appreciated.
Regards to all,
Davey V
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90302 09-19-2006 09-23-2006 N/A 26,804 0011270200 SIB #11-03-06 RECALL 06E-A02 CRANK VENT VALVE ON E53/60/63/64/65/66 WITH N62 PROD START TO 6/30/04
16856
1 23190
90302 09-19-2006 09-23-2006 N/A 26,804 3411043900 FRONT BRAKE PAD WEAR SENSOR UNPLEASANT NOISES
3421193900 REAR BRAKE PAD SENSOR UNPLEASANT NOISES
8411021200 APPLICATION, TELEMATICS / ASSIST PERMANENT FAILURE
85990089MP 1ST ENG.OIL SERVICE-FULL MAINTENANCE
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP
16856
1 977401
80266 04-10-2006 05-03-2006 N/A 22,111 8411010200 TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER INTERNAL EQUIPMENT DEFECT
16856
1 977400
80266 04-10-2006 04-14-2006 N/A 22,111 34000077MP BRAKE FLUID CHANGE- FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
61610077MP FT.WIPER RUBBER INSERT-MP
64310237MP MICROFILTER REPLACEMENT.
8411010200 TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER INTERNAL EQUIPMENT DEFECT
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP
16856
1 874388
61128 05-17-2005 05-26-2005 N/A 12,526 99999977CN CORE CREDITS - AUTOMATIC VIA IWS - MT OLIVE PDC VALID FOR REPAIR DATES FROM 12/18/97
16856
1 874380
61128 05-17-2005 05-26-2005 N/A 12,526 6452002500 AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR ROUGH RUNNING
6510161500 CAR COMMUNICATION COMPUTER (CCC) PERMANENT MALFUNCTION
85990087MP MP-LOW MILEAGE ANNUAL OIL SERVICE.
16856
1 817940
51643 12-03-2004 12-17-2004 N/A 8,097 0012980100 SIB #12-05-04 RECALL 04E-A04 REPRGM DME E53,E65,E66-N62,N73PROD 01/03-05/04,E60/63/64 PROD 8/03-8/04
16856
1 817930
51643 12-03-2004 12-17-2004 N/A 8,097 8411011200 TRANSCEIVER UNIT PERMANENT FAILURE
84110415AZ KEYPAD HANDSET/MOBILE PHONE PERMANENT MALFUNCTION
16856
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42917 07-12-2004 07-16-2004 N/A 3,664 0013490100 SIB #13-01-04 LBL CODE 410 RECALL 04V-303 FUEL LINE CLIP ON E60,E63,E64 PROD 09/2003 TO 03/2004
16856
1 761710
42917 07-12-2004 07-16-2004 N/A 3,664 3243021400 AFS CONTROL UNIT (ACTIVE STEERING) OCCASIONAL MALFUNCTION
84110102AZ TRANSCEIVER INTERNAL DEFECT.
16856
1 752750
41425 06-15-2004 06-18-2004 N/A 2,210 8411181200 EJECT BOX PERMANENT FAILURE
Regards to all,
Davey V
16856
1 23200
90302 09-19-2006 09-23-2006 N/A 26,804 0011270200 SIB #11-03-06 RECALL 06E-A02 CRANK VENT VALVE ON E53/60/63/64/65/66 WITH N62 PROD START TO 6/30/04
16856
1 23190
90302 09-19-2006 09-23-2006 N/A 26,804 3411043900 FRONT BRAKE PAD WEAR SENSOR UNPLEASANT NOISES
3421193900 REAR BRAKE PAD SENSOR UNPLEASANT NOISES
8411021200 APPLICATION, TELEMATICS / ASSIST PERMANENT FAILURE
85990089MP 1ST ENG.OIL SERVICE-FULL MAINTENANCE
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP
16856
1 977401
80266 04-10-2006 05-03-2006 N/A 22,111 8411010200 TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER INTERNAL EQUIPMENT DEFECT
16856
1 977400
80266 04-10-2006 04-14-2006 N/A 22,111 34000077MP BRAKE FLUID CHANGE- FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
61610077MP FT.WIPER RUBBER INSERT-MP
64310237MP MICROFILTER REPLACEMENT.
8411010200 TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER INTERNAL EQUIPMENT DEFECT
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP
16856
1 874388
61128 05-17-2005 05-26-2005 N/A 12,526 99999977CN CORE CREDITS - AUTOMATIC VIA IWS - MT OLIVE PDC VALID FOR REPAIR DATES FROM 12/18/97
16856
1 874380
61128 05-17-2005 05-26-2005 N/A 12,526 6452002500 AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR ROUGH RUNNING
6510161500 CAR COMMUNICATION COMPUTER (CCC) PERMANENT MALFUNCTION
85990087MP MP-LOW MILEAGE ANNUAL OIL SERVICE.
16856
1 817940
51643 12-03-2004 12-17-2004 N/A 8,097 0012980100 SIB #12-05-04 RECALL 04E-A04 REPRGM DME E53,E65,E66-N62,N73PROD 01/03-05/04,E60/63/64 PROD 8/03-8/04
16856
1 817930
51643 12-03-2004 12-17-2004 N/A 8,097 8411011200 TRANSCEIVER UNIT PERMANENT FAILURE
84110415AZ KEYPAD HANDSET/MOBILE PHONE PERMANENT MALFUNCTION
16856
1 761720
42917 07-12-2004 07-16-2004 N/A 3,664 0013490100 SIB #13-01-04 LBL CODE 410 RECALL 04V-303 FUEL LINE CLIP ON E60,E63,E64 PROD 09/2003 TO 03/2004
16856
1 761710
42917 07-12-2004 07-16-2004 N/A 3,664 3243021400 AFS CONTROL UNIT (ACTIVE STEERING) OCCASIONAL MALFUNCTION
84110102AZ TRANSCEIVER INTERNAL DEFECT.
16856
1 752750
41425 06-15-2004 06-18-2004 N/A 2,210 8411181200 EJECT BOX PERMANENT FAILURE
10-04-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by noonehome' post='477981' date='Oct 4 2007, 01:45 PM
I would have to disaggree... with the exception of the cradle malfunction and a couple of the other little things which I think were addons anyway, I've had the same list of work done on my 04. Once fixed they have been fine. Really they weren't a problem to start with except the CCC.
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The list of work looks OK to me! It includes some normal maintenance work as well as some recall work done.
Looks normal for that car and I would not call it a problematic car in any way. I would go for it.
Looks normal for that car and I would not call it a problematic car in any way. I would go for it.
10-05-2007, 04:38 AM
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If I go ahead with this purchase, which would be the best aftermarket warranty to buy? I average 5-6K miles yearly and would own the car for 3-5 years.
Thanks again,
Davey V.
Thanks again,
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Don't buy it.. Pass on this car.. Just keep on looking... Good luck!!!!
10-05-2007, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by daveyv' post='478255' date='Oct 5 2007, 08:38 AM
If I go ahead with this purchase, which would be the best aftermarket warranty to buy? I average 5-6K miles yearly and would own the car for 3-5 years.
Thanks again,
Davey V.
Thanks again,
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I have a slightly different view. Most of the problems seem centered around the TCU. Telematics Control Unit. Also the CCC which is basically the radio. This may not be a bad thing. If the TCU has been replaced and updated software installed the car may have had the bluetooth enabled for the phone which is a great thing. Probably $1000+ to get done on your own. The "Assist" failure is a common reason to have the TCU replaced. A lot of people, including me, bought 2004 E60's expecting bluetooth functionality only to find that the "build date" was too early to activate it. Many people have gone to elaborate lengths to get a TCU replacement under warranty and most of the entries you posted are related to just that issue.
I wouldn't give up on this car.
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I wouldn't give up on this car.
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10-05-2007, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by daveyv' post='478255' date='Oct 5 2007, 08:38 AM
If I go ahead with this purchase, which would be the best aftermarket warranty to buy? I average 5-6K miles yearly and would own the car for 3-5 years.
Thanks again,
Davey V.
Thanks again,
Davey V.
Call them now dude. 
10-05-2007, 07:06 AM
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I don't understand why everyone is saying to give up on this car. I'm not trying to argue here but I need some enlightenment.
I see some TCU problems which look like they've been fixed. I see scheduled maintenance. I see recalls (I've had all of those recalls too). The CCC malfunction was in 2005. The active steering malfunction was in 2004. The last transceiver problem was over a year ago. The A/C compressor was in 2005. All of these look like they've been fixed.
The last "problem" on this car has been close to a year ago (BTW, this car needs an oil change since the last one was close to a year ago). Buy the car and drive it for a bit. Take notice on any problems you might see, hear, or feel. When you bring the car in for service, have them look at all of those. This car had some growing pains but it was the first year of production and it looks like the problems have been taken car of.
My only beef with this car is that it doesn't have some sort of warranty (after the factory one expires). Try to get the dealer to give you a good warranty and I think you're golden. If not, at least get him to drop down on price enough that you can get a good warranty. The warranty will cost you around $3k-$4k so have him drop the price accordingly.
When you go to negotiate, make a big stink about the car's service history and how BMW's have high repair bills and see if he'll throw in a warranty or drop down the price. I think that'll work. He needs to get rid of that car just as bad as you want it. Also remember that it's a stick shift BMW and those don't sell too well in the Northeast. Winter is coming up too. I think he'll deal.
Henry
I see some TCU problems which look like they've been fixed. I see scheduled maintenance. I see recalls (I've had all of those recalls too). The CCC malfunction was in 2005. The active steering malfunction was in 2004. The last transceiver problem was over a year ago. The A/C compressor was in 2005. All of these look like they've been fixed.
The last "problem" on this car has been close to a year ago (BTW, this car needs an oil change since the last one was close to a year ago). Buy the car and drive it for a bit. Take notice on any problems you might see, hear, or feel. When you bring the car in for service, have them look at all of those. This car had some growing pains but it was the first year of production and it looks like the problems have been taken car of.
My only beef with this car is that it doesn't have some sort of warranty (after the factory one expires). Try to get the dealer to give you a good warranty and I think you're golden. If not, at least get him to drop down on price enough that you can get a good warranty. The warranty will cost you around $3k-$4k so have him drop the price accordingly.
When you go to negotiate, make a big stink about the car's service history and how BMW's have high repair bills and see if he'll throw in a warranty or drop down the price. I think that'll work. He needs to get rid of that car just as bad as you want it. Also remember that it's a stick shift BMW and those don't sell too well in the Northeast. Winter is coming up too. I think he'll deal.
Henry
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Originally Posted by HPLouis' post='478292' date='Oct 5 2007, 11:06 AM
I don't understand why everyone is saying to give up on this car. I'm not trying to argue here but I need some enlightenment.
I see some TCU problems which look like they've been fixed. I see scheduled maintenance. I see recalls (I've had all of those recalls too). The CCC malfunction was in 2005. The active steering malfunction was in 2004. The last transceiver problem was over a year ago. The A/C compressor was in 2005. All of these look like they've been fixed.
The last "problem" on this car has been close to a year ago (BTW, this car needs an oil change since the last one was close to a year ago). Buy the car and drive it for a bit. Take notice on any problems you might see, hear, or feel. When you bring the car in for service, have them look at all of those. This car had some growing pains but it was the first year of production and it looks like the problems have been taken car of.
My only beef with this car is that it doesn't have some sort of warranty (after the factory one expires). Try to get the dealer to give you a good warranty and I think you're golden. If not, at least get him to drop down on price enough that you can get a good warranty. The warranty will cost you around $3k-$4k so have him drop the price accordingly.
When you go to negotiate, make a big stink about the car's service history and how BMW's have high repair bills and see if he'll throw in a warranty or drop down the price. I think that'll work. He needs to get rid of that car just as bad as you want it. Also remember that it's a stick shift BMW and those don't sell too well in the Northeast. Winter is coming up too. I think he'll deal.
Henry
I see some TCU problems which look like they've been fixed. I see scheduled maintenance. I see recalls (I've had all of those recalls too). The CCC malfunction was in 2005. The active steering malfunction was in 2004. The last transceiver problem was over a year ago. The A/C compressor was in 2005. All of these look like they've been fixed.
The last "problem" on this car has been close to a year ago (BTW, this car needs an oil change since the last one was close to a year ago). Buy the car and drive it for a bit. Take notice on any problems you might see, hear, or feel. When you bring the car in for service, have them look at all of those. This car had some growing pains but it was the first year of production and it looks like the problems have been taken car of.
My only beef with this car is that it doesn't have some sort of warranty (after the factory one expires). Try to get the dealer to give you a good warranty and I think you're golden. If not, at least get him to drop down on price enough that you can get a good warranty. The warranty will cost you around $3k-$4k so have him drop the price accordingly.
When you go to negotiate, make a big stink about the car's service history and how BMW's have high repair bills and see if he'll throw in a warranty or drop down the price. I think that'll work. He needs to get rid of that car just as bad as you want it. Also remember that it's a stick shift BMW and those don't sell too well in the Northeast. Winter is coming up too. I think he'll deal.
Henry
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