Is It Really Worry Free Maintainence?
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I believe the service maintenence is well worth it. When they did my brakes, they replaced pads, rotors, sensors, brake lines and fluid. I went ahead and purchased the extended maintenence plan from twinkidneygrill.com for $1595. I also have an X5 that i had recently brought in for service with 99,000 miles and they did oil service, top off fluids, brakes, SPARK PLUGS, all oxygen sensors, all drive belts, microfilter, and tranny fluid.
Its really good to know that when you bring your car in for service you have almost nothing to pay for.
Its really good to know that when you bring your car in for service you have almost nothing to pay for.
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Originally Posted by delje08' post='536600' date='Feb 27 2008, 06:22 AM
I believe the service maintenence is well worth it. When they did my brakes, they replaced pads, rotors, sensors, brake lines and fluid. I went ahead and purchased the extended maintenence plan from twinkidneygrill.com for $1595. I also have an X5 that i had recently brought in for service with 99,000 miles and they did oil service, top off fluids, brakes, SPARK PLUGS, all oxygen sensors, all drive belts, microfilter, and tranny fluid.
Its really good to know that when you bring your car in for service you have almost nothing to pay for.
Its really good to know that when you bring your car in for service you have almost nothing to pay for.
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Originally Posted by subarashi' post='536029' date='Feb 25 2008, 07:01 PM
Yep -- Mods know ALL the answers, but Im impressed with your knowledge of the reimbursement system..tells me you either worked for them or know someone very well who works for them. That methodology of computation is the same as is used by CMS and Medicare with DRG based reimbursement. It's somewhat of a flawed system...you make money if you beat the timer, basically [get a pneumonia patient home in three days and you pocket the extra fourth day]. Interesting that car makers also use similar time limits as opposed to flat price no matter how much time you take......
Hahah good answer! Mods did you hear this... Rudy..he needs some extra post counts as a reward.
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Oh I didnt know CMS and Medicare use this system too. Ya i dont like it. I think its flawed too... it makes me want to think that the techs... or medicare docs would want to just push their patients out the door asap. thats why 3/5 times I have to return to the dealer for the same problem...
Oh also... if you return to the dealer for the same problem BMW will not pay the dealer for the initial time they performed the work.
So if you ahd to go back to the dealer for the steering rack twice within a time period... they'll only get paied for fixing the steering rack once.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='536729' date='Feb 27 2008, 01:59 PM
Hahah good answer! Mods did you hear this... Rudy..he needs some extra post counts as a reward.
Oh I didnt know CMS and Medicare use this system too. Ya i dont like it. I think its flawed too... it makes me want to think that the techs... or medicare docs would want to just push their patients out the door asap. thats why 3/5 times I have to return to the dealer for the same problem...
Oh also... if you return to the dealer for the same problem BMW will not pay the dealer for the initial time they performed the work.
So if you ahd to go back to the dealer for the steering rack twice within a time period... they'll only get paied for fixing the steering rack once.
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Oh I didnt know CMS and Medicare use this system too. Ya i dont like it. I think its flawed too... it makes me want to think that the techs... or medicare docs would want to just push their patients out the door asap. thats why 3/5 times I have to return to the dealer for the same problem...
Oh also... if you return to the dealer for the same problem BMW will not pay the dealer for the initial time they performed the work.
So if you ahd to go back to the dealer for the steering rack twice within a time period... they'll only get paied for fixing the steering rack once.
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BUT...I gotta say, I'd probably still buy BMWs even if they didn't have maintainence included. It leads me to think that perhaps they were stretching to get greater market share by throwing that in.
Anyone know why BMW went with that?? Are there other car companies that have a similar model? Is this true for the EU also??
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Originally Posted by subarashi' post='536908' date='Feb 27 2008, 03:31 PM
Are there other car companies that have a similar model?
I'm not sure how Audi's maintenance plan is... I thought they had some kinda... maybe not as extensive as BMWs... anyone know?
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='537400' date='Feb 28 2008, 05:07 PM
I know Merc HAD it... but did away with it in 2004 or somthing because it was costing them too much $$..
I'm not sure how Audi's maintenance plan is... I thought they had some kinda... maybe not as extensive as BMWs... anyone know?
I'm not sure how Audi's maintenance plan is... I thought they had some kinda... maybe not as extensive as BMWs... anyone know?
I checked with MBUSA, Audi USA and Porsche USA -- no maintainence plans included but they did point out BMWs flaws to me several times when I asked them what they thought of BMWs maintainence plan. Not that I agree with them completely [a Porsche brake job can force you into Chapter 11 I hear], but it's nice to hear the other side sometimes.....
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Originally Posted by subarashi' post='539750' date='Mar 4 2008, 05:14 PM
I checked with MBUSA, Audi USA and Porsche USA -- no maintainence plans included but they did point out BMWs flaws to me several times when I asked them what they thought of BMWs maintainence plan. Not that I agree with them completely [a Porsche brake job can force you into Chapter 11 I hear], but it's nice to hear the other side sometimes.....
What did they have to say about BMWs maintenance plan? I'm all ears!
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Originally Posted by delje08' post='536600' date='Feb 27 2008, 02:22 AM
I believe the service maintenence is well worth it. When they did my brakes, they replaced pads, rotors, sensors, brake lines and fluid. I went ahead and purchased the extended maintenence plan from twinkidneygrill.com for $1595. I also have an X5 that i had recently brought in for service with 99,000 miles and they did oil service, top off fluids, brakes, SPARK PLUGS, all oxygen sensors, all drive belts, microfilter, and tranny fluid.
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Its really good to know that when you bring your car in for service you have almost nothing to pay for.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='539841' date='Mar 5 2008, 01:06 AM
What did they have to say about BMWs maintenance plan? I'm all ears!
Well, the guys from MBUSA actually said that they don't offer the maintainence plan because they do not feel it appropriate to charge their clients an "exorbitant" rate for maintainence that would never cost as much as the plan itself. The Porsche guy was even better -- he said that they don't believe their car will need major maintainence and is designed to run for many years with minimal intervention!! In other words, he dissed BMWs quality!!!
It's amazing what answers you can get when you put them on the spot.......
I think the point is this......most sellers believe BMW makes money on their main plan AND it's a sale gimmick. Thus, other vendors do not believe that this will serve their client base well who are looking for a no nonsense car up front.
Oh..and yes, they did point out that there are several clients that need to argue about what is covered and what isn't! As the MB guy told me, "We would never do that to our clients!"
ARE YOU HEARING ME BMW NA?????????????????
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I have another question to ask you guys....
We've been having a lot of cold weather here in the South and I've noticed a lot more rough starts in the morning when the engine is cold. There've been no backfires or pings on the engine but there are surges when the engine starts off and I feel like this is related to the SIB that we've looked at with the valve, etc....
I took it to my SA who said that they could not "replicate the problem..."
I'm having this flashback of having to fight again but I really don't want these rats messin with the car unless it is absolutely neccesary...what do you experts say.....
We've been having a lot of cold weather here in the South and I've noticed a lot more rough starts in the morning when the engine is cold. There've been no backfires or pings on the engine but there are surges when the engine starts off and I feel like this is related to the SIB that we've looked at with the valve, etc....
I took it to my SA who said that they could not "replicate the problem..."
I'm having this flashback of having to fight again but I really don't want these rats messin with the car unless it is absolutely neccesary...what do you experts say.....
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