Well guys all is well with the BMW now i have bluetooth, voice commands cd changer and a almost paid for bmw. My SA called and told me he had it working and it does. Now i have a BTUM and eject box for sale as my tech installed a new tcu with bluetooth and it works with out the BTUM and eject kit if anyone need info on the fix i can direct you to the final synopsis. What it looks like is that the BTUM and cradle are not really needed as i have one of the first e60 built and if i can be retrode on my car it should be possible on any. Thanks guys for the answers and support :thumbsup: :D