Went to check out a GTR yesterday...
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Originally Posted by Schu Dog Nite' post='1070189' date='Dec 8 2009, 10:00 AM
V you are so correct! I was upside down on a 2006 GTO and I look back on it and I swear the same shit was pitched to me. Everytime I have my wife/GF go in to get oil change the service dept tries to tell her it needs the 30k service, I mean they tell her it has to be done. All it consists of is checking various things plus oil service,,$300! I tell her to them no and they badger her. I actually had to go down and square it away. Told them to contact me only about the truck, she just drives it. That being said its not a bad vehicle at all, gas milage sucks but pretty capable for what it is. Im gonna snap a pic of this salesman next time Im in there. Hes a pissa, $80 suit with a $60 hair cut and a Movado he got someone to buy him. He thinks he Gordon Gecko with his payless shoes. OK again Im being critical, hes doing his best I guess.
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Originally Posted by v_therussian' post='1070239' date='Dec 8 2009, 11:28 AM
I think BMW is one of very-very few companies, who have it as a policy that their Service Advisers are not on commissions. You do know that in most other companies' service departments the SA's are lovingly called "writers"? They actually make more than the sales people! And it's all commissions - all because they scare oblivious housewives and widows into spending thousands of dollars on useless inspections and other fictitious things that don't even get done properly more than half the time...
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I'd all over the GTR in a heartbeat if it had a more elegant design and it didn't have a Nissan badge on the hood. There's no question that the GTR is an incredible machine, the performance per dollar is simply staggering, but for me performance alone isn't enough. Sure, the car has to perform, but it has to to have an elegant or an iconic design, and it has to have true brand heritage. For me, the Nissan only checks one of my three boxes. If they gave it the design it deserves, and it wasn't branded Nissan, I'd definitely be interested. Back on point, there's no reason for the dealers to treat this car as anything special and to treat customers with such disdain. It's an 80K car. Expensive for a Nissan (although great value for the performance) - but nowhere near expensive enough for dealers to act as though it were an exotic...
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='1070261' date='Dec 8 2009, 12:07 PM
I'd all over the GTR in a heartbeat if it had a more elegant design and it didn't have a Nissan badge on the hood. There's no question that the GTR is an incredible machine, the performance per dollar is simply staggering, but for me performance alone isn't enough. Sure, the car has to perform, but it has to to have an elegant or an iconic design, and it has to have true brand heritage. For me, the Nissan only checks one of my three boxes. If they gave it the design it deserves, and it wasn't branded Nissan, I'd definitely be interested. Back on point, there's no reason for the dealers to treat this car as anything special and to treat customers with such disdain. It's an 80K car. Expensive for a Nissan (although great value for the performance) - but nowhere near expensive enough for dealers to act as though it were an exotic...
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='1070261' date='Dec 8 2009, 12:07 PM
I'd all over the GTR in a heartbeat if it had a more elegant design and it didn't have a Nissan badge on the hood. There's no question that the GTR is an incredible machine, the performance per dollar is simply staggering, but for me performance alone isn't enough. Sure, the car has to perform, but it has to to have an elegant or an iconic design, and it has to have true brand heritage. For me, the Nissan only checks one of my three boxes. If they gave it the design it deserves, and it wasn't branded Nissan, I'd definitely be interested. Back on point, there's no reason for the dealers to treat this car as anything special and to treat customers with such disdain. It's an 80K car. Expensive for a Nissan (although great value for the performance) - but nowhere near expensive enough for dealers to act as though it were an exotic...
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Originally Posted by v_therussian' post='1070303' date='Dec 8 2009, 10:16 AM
In all fairness, one could argue that there is heritage in GT-R, but it's no P-car, sure...
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i actually almost got into a fist fight with a service manager in a nissan dealership after i test drove a new maxima (06 at the time).
Long story, but it ended with me throwing the car keys at him, and i mean THROW. the key hit him in the shoulder. it ended with 3 salesman following me out of the dealer while another held the service manager there. they were like, please, let us work something out, we know you love the car, blah blah blah. i ended up getting a call from the general manager who apologized and said the sales manager has been reprimanded and has a problem with "drinking too much redbull"
. I never went back.
Long story, but it ended with me throwing the car keys at him, and i mean THROW. the key hit him in the shoulder. it ended with 3 salesman following me out of the dealer while another held the service manager there. they were like, please, let us work something out, we know you love the car, blah blah blah. i ended up getting a call from the general manager who apologized and said the sales manager has been reprimanded and has a problem with "drinking too much redbull"
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On the same line when the Honda S2000 came to market back in 2000. I went into a Honda dealership that was close that I deal with for work. I went in wearing my work uniform from the service station. I inquired about a S2000. The guy that helped me said, ?we don?t have one, how about a Prelude?? I just walked out the door.
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
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Originally Posted by chowbox' post='1070904' date='Dec 9 2009, 10:24 AM
On the same line when the Honda S2000 came to market back in 2000. I went into a Honda dealership that was close that I deal with for work. I went in wearing my work uniform from the service station. I inquired about a S2000. The guy that helped me said, ?we don?t have one, how about a Prelude?? I just walked out the door.
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
You are so right Chowbox, my Mom's best firend's brother was a salesman at this Ford dealership in New Mexico. This little Mexican guy comes in all dirty, dirty boots, clothes the whole 9. He sits there for an hour when the guy I'm talking about starts his day and he asks about the little Mexican guy. They all thought he was homeless. So the guy walks up to the Mex and asks if he can help him, the Mex says he needs a truck with X,X,X features, towing etc. The guy I know tells him all about the F-250 and 350's. The little Mexican dude is so pleased that he tells the guy he'll take 10 right now - cash. So the little guy everyone else thought was homeless actually owned several ranches and from then on would ONLY deal with the guy that helped him the first time.
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On the same line when the Honda S2000 came to market back in 2000. I went into a Honda dealership that was close that I deal with for work. I went in wearing my work uniform from the service station. I inquired about a S2000. The guy that helped me said, ?we don?t have one, how about a Prelude?? I just walked out the door.
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
I knew there were a few S2k?s in town and that they were asking around a $10k premium for them at the time. I wanted Spa Yellow that was a new color for the 2001 year.
I went back to the same dealership a week later. I went up to some young salesman that was prepping a Civic for delivery outside and inquired about the S2000 again. He said he didn?t have one but could get one for me, but the Spa would be a while. I told him that I wouldn?t pay any premium but would pay in full right now. Made his day when I scratched out a check for $35k
Never judge a book buy the cover. I love wearing my work clothes the buy cars. I did that same thing when I purchased my Lexus GS350
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='1070911' date='Dec 9 2009, 01:45 PM
You are so right Chowbox, my Mom's best firend's brother was a salesman at this Ford dealership in New Mexico. This little Mexican guy comes in all dirty, dirty boots, clothes the whole 9. He sits there for an hour when the guy I'm talking about starts his day and he asks about the little Mexican guy. They all thought he was homeless. So the guy walks up to the Mex and asks if he can help him, the Mex says he needs a truck with X,X,X features, towing etc. The guy I know tells him all about the F-250 and 350's. The little Mexican dude is so pleased that he tells the guy he'll take 10 right now - cash. So the little guy everyone else thought was homeless actually owned several ranches and from then on would ONLY deal with the guy that helped him the first time.
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