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For all its worth, I think its more honest that Porsche just started selling 4-door cars and SUVs under it's own name and didn't go inventing a brand, like Toyota did with Lexus or Nissan with Infiniti and so on.
As for prestige.
the world is changing - for better or worse - we either "lead, follow, or get out of the way"
Having seen several Panameras in real life already, I must say, I love the car. I think it is a real Porsche and it is probably a great car to drive. It is somewhat overpriced IMHO, but so are all German cars.
Tuned Panameras are becoming a tuner's favorite all over, so instead of resisting - even if you don't initially like it - I'd rather go with the flow and try to understand and embrace the change. At least this way, there is a chance I'll be around when the next change occurs - and who knows, I might influence the next change.
Above said, it is true what they say - to each his own, so if someone doesn't like it, he doesn't have to look at/buy/drive it.
As for prestige.
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Having seen several Panameras in real life already, I must say, I love the car. I think it is a real Porsche and it is probably a great car to drive. It is somewhat overpriced IMHO, but so are all German cars.
Tuned Panameras are becoming a tuner's favorite all over, so instead of resisting - even if you don't initially like it - I'd rather go with the flow and try to understand and embrace the change. At least this way, there is a chance I'll be around when the next change occurs - and who knows, I might influence the next change.
Above said, it is true what they say - to each his own, so if someone doesn't like it, he doesn't have to look at/buy/drive it.
That's exactly where Porsche imho made the mistake. As i said earlier, we are waiting a Porsche to compete with the Mini Cooper S and were set.
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Strategically speaking but also financially the move from Toyota with Lexus and Nissan with Infinity, gave them the shift needed to sell their premium cars. That's the exact reason Volkswagen failed with the Phaeton cars...till then Volkswagen was regarded as accessible car brand (peoples' car) but when they wanted to rival with 7 series and Mercedes S models they failed exactly to that, even though the quality of the car was on par with the others.
That's exactly where Porsche imho made the mistake. As i said earlier, we are waiting a Porsche to compete with the Mini Cooper S and were set.
A Ferrari will always be considered an exotic where Porsche has lost it's touch with this ![Yawn](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/yawn.gif)
That's exactly where Porsche imho made the mistake. As i said earlier, we are waiting a Porsche to compete with the Mini Cooper S and were set.
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And Ferrari is coming out with a hybrid in 2012... so... its anyone's guess. But its a matter of choice - I'd get the Panamera, personally.
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Yes but you're missing the point here! I'm not talking about financial status ("doing well"), i'm talking about heritage and prestige! I don't think people care anymore if a prestigious company (eg German car company) starts to build cars in US or China. I mean people have so long moved on since we truly live in a global economy. So as long as quality it's the same they don't really care what nationality builds that product.
Also before BMW entered the SUV market, it was not regarded as a pure sports car brand. Sure it made sports saloons and some sports coupes but it also built big luxury cars like the 7 series from 1977. That's 33 years! Also the X5 is being built for how long ? 11 years? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Its too bad you feel this way about the Panamera. But to each their own - cheers!
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