530ISPORT

its an amazing car the 911 turbo.... i was on the high way coming home from work on the BQE (its a high way in ny) i saw a white drop top.. it had some crazy color leather in side... beautiful car.. the sound of the car was crazy,, some asian guy was driven... i was trying to play with him... but he had no intensions of playing he was OUT . HE WENT FROM 60 TO LIKE 120... IN THAT FAST... MY MOUTH HIT THE SEAT BETWEEN MY LEGS.. I just pulled to the right lane and drove at 55.. i felt like this after that .. just unreal... mind you i was in my 335i 6speed with software.. and my car is quick.. but not nearly as fast as this beast of a car... the 911 has big comp with the GTR... the gtr is very quick.. it handles very well... the 911 is a true gentlemens car... the GTR is the reble the one that everyone dont like, but over time hell grow and people will see the GTR as an equal to the super car market...

530ISPORT

this test is not right.. i drove in both of these cars in vegas for traning for the GTR.. im a good driver but the guys that did the tests with us.. these guys car drive... and 0-60 for both are so close to call.. the gtr would do 3.4 the 911 did the same... 2nd run the gtr would do like 3.3 3.5 the 911 would do the same... its way to close to call... but i can tell you buy far in the braking part.... everytime the GTR came out on top... the m3 im sry to say it shouldnt even be in these compare... the m3 is a grat car.. but between the 911 and the GTR... no comp at all..... guys every mag you guys read about this stuff some body is paying big money to have them on top... its a shame but its all about buisness... think about it... a nissan beating out one of the most exotic and amazing cars to be built.. and at half the price.. the 911 people must be going nutz ...

MiamiPhill

I don't know about that, the head of Nissan NA said that they have gone through great pains to make increasing the HP of GT-R VERY difficult, he repeated the same thing to Jay Leno when he tested the car. http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_...html?vid=244892

530ISPORT

great find. . but the software is comeing, there is no way that its not going to be there...

ukr

One of the GTR engineers explained the reason it makes so much power is because there are very low friction bearings used in the car.

530ISPORT

YES THIS IS VERY TRUE... but there is so much more to get out of this car.. just like the tt 335i... wait and see whats going to come out of this car..

heezy545i

In a straight line the 997TT is likely faster than the GT-R, but even when down on power, the GT-R is still producing faster lap times than the 997TT and Z06 in comparison tests.

There is also some speculation that this particular GT-R is down on power compared to other GT-Rs as it has been thrashed by testers.

JetBlack5OC

What are you saying, the car doesn't last too long? That isn't good.

heezy545i

The trap speeds and 1/4 mile times for the GTR are all over the place. This thread is talking about a very underrated GT-R, but recent tests in U.S. mags indicate that the GT-R may not be underrated at all.

In this test, http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/compar...n_test/(page)/1 , the GT-R put up a paltry 111mph trap speed. That trap speed does not indicate underrated horsepower ratings in the least.

Where do these discrepancies come from? If the GT-R really had ~580bhp then it would have a trap speed in the mid to high 120mph range. Who am I to say that the car won't last long as it's all speculation at this point. Perhaps some of the early cars really were ringers or maybe this particular GT-R is a poor example for whatever reason.

Regardless of what the actual HP ratings are, the GT-R is showing that it can produce very competitive lap times even when down on power (as indicated by acceleration times), and with it's hefty weight penalty compared to it's competition.

Here are some results from that C&D comparo. From these results, the GT-R would be miles behind in the straights, but somewhat competitive lap times indicate that it's transmission, AWD and suspension really are that good.

Corvette Z06
Curb weight 3180 lb
0-60 mph 3.8 sec
0-100 mph 8.3 sec
1/4 mile 11.9 @ 124mph
70-0 mph 159 ft
Slalom 62.9 mph
Lap time 2:01.7 / 79.9 MPH (Button Willow No13 2.7 mile)

Viper SRT10 ACR
Curb weight 3420 lb
0-60 mph 3.4 sec
0-100 mph 7.7 sec
1/4 mile 11.8 @ 126mph
70-0 mph 149 ft
Slalom 71.9 mph
Lap time 1:55.7 / 84.0 MPH (Button Willow No13 2.7 mile)

Porsche GT2
Curb weight 3300 lb
0-60 mph 3.7 sec
0-100 mph 8.1 sec
1/4 mile 11.8 @ 121mph
70-0 mph 155 ft
Slalom 67.2 mph
Lap time 1:59.7 / 81.2 MPH

Nissan GTR
Curb weight 3920 lb
0-60 mph 4.1 sec
0-100 mph 10.2 sec
1/4 mile 12.6 @ 111mph
70-0 mph 155 ft
Slalom 67.6 mph
Lap time 2:01.1 / 80.3 MPH (Button Willow No13 2.7 mile)


Oh and if the GT-R raises the bar higher and pushes the 911 to higher levels, great, but realistically, I don't think Porsche could care less. The GT-R is a wonderful performance bargain, but there's more to speed when considering cars. If the GTR could be had near MSRP, I'd rather have an e92 M3 or a used 997S for the price. If the price is more close to 100K with markup, then I'd look at a used GT3 or turbo. Really entirely different markets and cars IMO.

ModBargains

Edmunds Inside-line tested the GT-R, theres a video on youtube you guys can look up.

Nissan tests
0-60: 3.5 sec
Inside-line tests
0-60: 3.2 sec ( testers say they could've shaved 1 or 2 mils more if conditions were better)

Most say that the GT-R is overrated, I saw it was the only car that was created into a hype-beast, lived up and exceeded those expectations. After all who can complain about a nissan handing ferraris and porsches their lunches?