+1 on the Phaeton. You basically can get an Audi A8 for half the price (if you find a slightly used Phaeton). They have amazing interiors. I sat in the back seat of one, and the leg room was amazing. It was like a limo. Too bad it weighs 6000 pounds and is no fun to drive.

 

lol... a fool huh... less dramatic... please you make me

 

Keep telling yourself it is a great car at 100k and you might believe it, I know you do but sounds like no one else does.

 

I heard that VW was going to try the Phaeton again - i thought they were nice the first time around (i got to play with a few in Munich before they came out in the US, and then a friend here got one) but if they try again they should be GREAT.

I dont know about the honda over acura argument, ive always thought VW made fairly decent interiors. case in point (for me at least) i have one friend with an a4 and another with a jetta ... there are certainly some things on the a4 that are better, but overall the jetta isnt bad. especially for the money compared to the audi. would i purchase the audi over the jetta? yes i would - but it also costs significantly more.
Its unfortunate VW doesn't take advantage of it cult following (not dissimilar to nissan) and make a TRUE performance version(or maybe they already do? i dont know) - a RS4 equivalent jetta if you will. It certainly wouldn't sell widely (neither does the RS4) but if produced in limited numbers i think it would do well without usurping 'big brothers' buyers

 

I thought Jettas were for girls?

 

they are - both my friend with the jetta and a4 (well at least the a4 i was thinking of when i wrote that) are of the female persuasion

 

Not to get too terribly off topic (of course, the original topic of this thread is about worthless anyway), but I totally agree on the VW comment. My wife had one of the "new" Jettas in 1999 that had the VR6 engine and a 6spd manual, and it was a blast to drive. Then, a couple years later, VW dropped the 6cyl option and only offered two 4-cyl options. I don't know what they were thinking. I have a feeling the folks at Audi keep a tight reign on how "sporty" VW can get. The R32 Golf was a pretty cool car, but that was the only model VW offered here in that type of trim.

 

I CAN CARE LESS WHAT EVERY ONE ELSE THINKS... 100k who said any thing about 100k... thats crazy... but at the same time if some one is going to pay that much... i hope im the one to sell it to that person..... im telling my self its a great car cause i dove it... i drove alot of cars being in this line of work... and money wise this is the car.... when any of you guys or girls get to drive this car u will see what im talking about... till then your all sceptices...

 

You said 100k in your earlier post, you said it would sell for 100k.

 

For a guy a who could care less what everyone thinks, you sure like to keep pushing your worth of the GT-R down people's throat. No one here is going to validate the value you put on this Nissan. It's a niche market car and you're trying to push it to the wrong crowd. For someone who's so convinced this is the "it" car, why aren't you buying one?