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Old 02-08-2007 | 01:09 AM
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Ok sorry don't know what happened with post number 9 and how it got there.

Cobradav thank you for your reply.
Old 02-08-2007 | 06:21 AM
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Thanks, mate! Much better to read. Very spirited driving there.
Old 02-08-2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='388593' date='Feb 8 2007, 05:53 AM
Nah mate , these ones are better
Bettermakeway.. i got the story, dude why dont you stop and chat with those people, arrange to
race somewhere safer without much traffic !!!? Racing when theres traffic is silly
I know it is, but only as long as some boundries are crossed. I assume you were talking about the risks/safety.

And i also stop most of the time but after the race to have a quick chat. When it's hotter outside i even stay for like almost hours with some enthusiasts (chicks too man ) to chat in some nights.

Race somewhere without traffic? If you were not talking about drag racing, that's kinda hard to find. To do a good sprint from one location to another but without traffic, cops, junctions, pedestrains and good quality tarmac is almost impossible to find unless you've got a racetrack which we don't. And for some including me, racing in traffic is somehow the essence since that's simply a different game. On a racetrack you concentrate or aim to drive as fast as you can by hiting the apexes just right, by braking as late as possible or by getting on the throttle as fast as possible. In city racing, that's different. Suddenly all those factors become secondary, and the primary factors are: not to get over the line, not to simply take out the other cars in traffic, respect the red lights, watch out for the idiotic pedestrians that cross the road through unmarked areas and so on... plus to be quick which imo is far more of a challange. But as i said if you keep it clean and don't push it too much it's not a problem. Also i should mention this is not like every day, it's more like 6-10 times per year.

That's simply because there are very few that venture in this kind of fun. Some love more drag racing, i find it a bit boring...since all you do is watch you launch and then the rest is simple assuming one knows the basics of shifting gears and going in a staight line
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if you keep you out of those, I will get you to either Hungaroring or Hockenheim, leave street races for others, sure I also nail it from red light to another but only when somebody has a big face

but drifting and going MUCH or little over the limit in the city is crazy my friend.

700700 (torque-master) is right, take care A, ot. any news
Old 02-08-2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='388945' date='Feb 9 2007, 01:25 AM
if you keep you out of those, I will get you to either Hungaroring or Hockenheim, leave street races for others, sure I also nail it from red light to another but only when somebody has a big face

but drifting and going MUCH or little over the limit in the city is crazy my friend.

700700 (torque-master) is right, take care A, ot. any news
Thanx for the heads-up. Will try to remember this advice, not provoke anymore but more important and much harder try to rezist the challange when it arizes.

About the other thing, no man...... i'm starting to feel

Wanted to write you a mail but i decided to leave it for the weekend. Maybe it's better to write them directly to ask them what's happening...i dunno, i just hope nothing bad happened :'( I would hate to see any kind of problems
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='388933' date='Feb 8 2007, 08:51 PM
On a racetrack you concentrate or aim to drive as fast as you can by hiting the apexes just right, by braking as late as possible or by getting on the throttle as fast as possible. In city racing, that's different. Suddenly all those factors become secondary, and the primary factors are: not to get over the line, not to simply take out the other cars in traffic, respect the red lights, watch out for the idiotic pedestrians that cross the road through unmarked areas and so on
There is another thing which is different on a racetrack: you are risking your own stuff (including life) and sharing that risk with other people who all have accepted it explicitly by coming to an environment where everybody is supposed to be driving to the limit of his/her personal and car's abilities.

As an idiotic pedestrian who sometimes crosses the road where he can (for example, to get to my car that is parked in front of my house, given that there are no pedestrian crossings within 500 metres), and the father of two even more idiotic - or inexperienced - children, who also need to get to the car (or the shop, or the park, or...), I am not sure I do want to share that risk.

(If you are ever over here, very happy to go on a track with you BTW.)
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Cool story. Nice to hear one once in a while. Be safe too.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='388933' date='Feb 8 2007, 08:51 PM
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i drag race with most people... i wonder why


very few want to drive like lunatics around the capital !
Old 02-10-2007 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='389012' date='Feb 9 2007, 03:52 AM
There is another thing which is different on a racetrack: you are risking your own stuff (including life) and sharing that risk with other people who all have accepted it explicitly by coming to an environment where everybody is supposed to be driving to the limit of his/her personal and car's abilities.

As an idiotic pedestrian who sometimes crosses the road where he can (for example, to get to my car that is parked in front of my house, given that there are no pedestrian crossings within 500 metres), and the father of two even more idiotic - or inexperienced - children, who also need to get to the car (or the shop, or the park, or...), I am not sure I do want to share that risk.

(If you are ever over here, very happy to go on a track with you BTW.)
You have a very valid point there in the 1st paragraph. That is indeed wrong, but trust me if we were to have at least 1 racetrack most of us woldn't brake those boudries on public roads. We thus have to go 1500km just to have this opportunity.

About the 2nd paragraph i didn't mean to use idiotic term only by refering to the crossing the streets through unmarked areas, i meant people that don't pay attention when they do it, when they run and so on...all the stuff that confuses a driver let alone in a spirited drive. Don't get me wrong i also drive 95% fo the time very quietly and as legal as possible, but when conditions are met then i do enjoy a good race in that 5%, race also (it's important to understand) within limits. I understood that lesson on my own skin and of course i don't risk that much anymore, neither myself, the car, or other participants in traffic.

About the trip, although it's very far away i would love to go at least once in UK with my car, just for the fun of it. I just love to tick another country at the wheel. If this ever acomplishes i will for sure give you a heads-up. Would love to honour that invitation
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