Okay--what's wrong? The ATT Network or the iPHone/BT interface?
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Originally Posted by jksanford' post='443295' date='Jul 4 2007, 08:07 AM
I can confirm that it doesn't seem to work with the Aux port....
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='443166' date='Jul 3 2007, 09:18 PM
That's what you get for using late 20th century technology... I saw my first EDGE demo at Ericsson back in the late 90s. As for the person saying "all of Ericsson's stuff went down" really sends the wrong message. Regardless of the hardware vendor, it was AT&T's network that went down.
AT&T also has 3G UMTS HSDPA in limited markets, but it's fairly weak - the slowest iteration of the spec. UMTS uses different spectrum bands in EU and Asia compared to the US - so it's no wonder that the iPhone is GSM/EDGE. It needed to be usable in the widest possible area, and GSM/EDGE is the most prevalent technology.
At least in the US, EVDO Rev A rules the roost for data. Sprint's Mobile WiMax (802.16e - 4G) deployment slated for late this year will "raise the bar" and likely make them the king of the hill for the time being. http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=12960 Sprint is in a good position after the acquisition of Nextel. Nextel purchased a large block of MMDS spectrum from Worldcom during the bankruptcy proceedings - spectrum that Worldcom had wanted to marry with Sprint's back when they tried (and failed) to acquire Sprint. The Sprint-Nextel merger combined the very same spectrum - only back then people were thinking it would be used for 3G. Now we'll be seeing 4G deployments by the end of the year.
With that said, all the various wireless technologies are moving towards their respective 4G evolutionary stages, utilizing OFDM and delivering ~100Mbits/sec within a few years. Once this happens, there will be very little difference between UMTS, Mobile Wimax, and EVDO.
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As a Sprint EVDO user since its US rollout, I can attest that Sprint's EVDO infrastructure is extensive. And they'll be in a good position with WiMax. But AT&T sees the writing on the wall, and with technologies like UMTS Rev 8 (LTE), will be able to compete in that market as well long term.
This sounds like Sprint propaganda to me, Verizon will be offering a Rev A service as well. In either case, CDMA is the way to go right now, in the US, for a high speed wireless data network connection.
From what I understand, Apple is getting a share of the revenue stream from ATT. I doubt Sprint or Verizon would have agreed to that. It's too bad, it looks like nice hardware, but i'll stick with my 700p.
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Originally Posted by z0lt3c' post='446445' date='Jul 11 2007, 08:04 PM
This sounds like Sprint propaganda to me, Verizon will be offering a Rev A service as well. In either case, CDMA is the way to go right now, in the US, for a high speed wireless data network connection.
From what I understand, Apple is getting a share of the revenue stream from ATT. I doubt Sprint or Verizon would have agreed to that. It's too bad, it looks like nice hardware, but i'll stick with my 700p.
From what I understand, Apple is getting a share of the revenue stream from ATT. I doubt Sprint or Verizon would have agreed to that. It's too bad, it looks like nice hardware, but i'll stick with my 700p.
Huh? I used to work for Verizon so I certainly have no love for Sprint. Verizon has had Rev A for a while now. Mobile WiMax is an entirely different animal. It's true 4G. Sprint is rolling it out in test markets near the end of 2007. Shit man, just read the link I posted.
I agree, I personally believe Apple likely made some pretty hefty demands when shopping for a carrier, and I also personally believe that Sprint and Verizon probably laughed Apple out of the room - if such a meeting ever happened.
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Originally Posted by z0lt3c' post='446445' date='Jul 11 2007, 05:04 PM
From what I understand, Apple is getting a share of the revenue stream from ATT. I doubt Sprint or Verizon would have agreed to that. It's too bad, it looks like nice hardware, but i'll stick with my 700p.
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