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"I understand that we have a lot of haters right now, ..."
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
06-30-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nickolas_g' post='441792' date='Jun 30 2007, 08:41 AM
"I understand that we have a lot of haters right now, ..."
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
I wasn't referring to your comment...I was referring to people cherry-picking negative "reviews" of iPhone and posting them here - all from people who haven't even seen or used an iPhone. Also, if you worked in any enterprise group at Apple, you know that iPhone isn't targeted at enterprise.
But you just said iPhone doesn't have VPN support, but it in fact does, and supports many corporate VPN systems out of the box. That said, iPhone isn't going to be a direct replacement for Treos or Blackberrys in corporate/enterprise markets anytime soon, and that's not really its purpose. And while we use Apple heavily in enterprise/datacenter environments for various tasks, I'll be the first person to say Apple isn't an enterprise company.
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Originally Posted by das' post='441795' date='Jun 30 2007, 08:50 AM
Nickolas,
I wasn't referring to your comment...I was referring to people cherry-picking negative "reviews" of iPhone and posting them here - all from people who haven't even seen or used an iPhone. Also, if you worked in any enterprise group at Apple, you know that iPhone isn't targeted at enterprise.
But you just said iPhone doesn't have VPN support, but it in fact does, and supports many corporate VPN systems out of the box. That said, iPhone isn't going to be a direct replacement for Treos or Blackberrys in corporate/enterprise markets anytime soon, and that's not really its purpose. And while we use Apple heavily in enterprise/datacenter environments for various tasks, I'll be the first person to say Apple isn't an enterprise company.
I wasn't referring to your comment...I was referring to people cherry-picking negative "reviews" of iPhone and posting them here - all from people who haven't even seen or used an iPhone. Also, if you worked in any enterprise group at Apple, you know that iPhone isn't targeted at enterprise.
But you just said iPhone doesn't have VPN support, but it in fact does, and supports many corporate VPN systems out of the box. That said, iPhone isn't going to be a direct replacement for Treos or Blackberrys in corporate/enterprise markets anytime soon, and that's not really its purpose. And while we use Apple heavily in enterprise/datacenter environments for various tasks, I'll be the first person to say Apple isn't an enterprise company.
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Originally Posted by das' post='441790' date='Jun 30 2007, 08:35 AM
First, iPhone is not targeted at enterprise.
Second, a user forwarding email to outside, non-company systems in order so it can be checked via IMAP/POP has ZERO to do with the iPhone's "security features". If that is a violation of any corporate policy, it has nothing to do with iPhone. That's a user issue.
Also, IMAP over SSL meets or exceeds any security requirements corporate IT might believe they're fulfilling with integrated solutions. IMAP over SSL is used heavily in academic, government, and military environments that prefer open standards over closed (but admittedly sometimes necessary) groupware systems. That said, secure email using IMAP over SSL, which can be accessed via iPhone AND over a VPN as well if necessary, can be easily provided by any corporate IT department if necessary.
Second, a user forwarding email to outside, non-company systems in order so it can be checked via IMAP/POP has ZERO to do with the iPhone's "security features". If that is a violation of any corporate policy, it has nothing to do with iPhone. That's a user issue.
Also, IMAP over SSL meets or exceeds any security requirements corporate IT might believe they're fulfilling with integrated solutions. IMAP over SSL is used heavily in academic, government, and military environments that prefer open standards over closed (but admittedly sometimes necessary) groupware systems. That said, secure email using IMAP over SSL, which can be accessed via iPhone AND over a VPN as well if necessary, can be easily provided by any corporate IT department if necessary.
This info is 100% correct, this is a secure device (in some respects)... L2TP over IPSec is solid security, and so is SSL. The issues are around the OS and vulnerabilities through HTTP and other protocols, without A/V or Anti-Spyware on the phone... there is the rub.
Apple OS X vulnerabilites are on the rise, and this phone is going to be ripe for hackers to go after!!!
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Originally Posted by nickolas_g' post='441792' date='Jun 30 2007, 06:41 AM
"I understand that we have a lot of haters right now, ..."
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
Not at all from my viewpoint. and ummm.. I worked for Apple for four years. I loved the company then as I do now. I was in the Enterprise team calling on Apple's top corporate accounts. I think that my viewpoint is valid to say the least.
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I hope I didn't come across as one of the "haters" -- I agree that the iPhone is a breakthrough and truly hope that it becomes something that can eventually work in the enterprise as well as the consumer market. The multi-touch screen alone is enough to create a buzz among consumers (and rightly so) and I can only imagine that the competition will eventually begin to integrate that technology in their offerings as well. To me, that's good news -- the iPhone raised the bar in terms of interface design so I expect things to get even more exciting down the road.
I would love to have an iPhone but for now, because of the lack of enterprise support, I have to wait. Luckily for me, the BlackBerry does things pretty well so the wait isn't painful.
The bigger question is...is the iPhone something my dad can figure out? (Believe me, that's a tall order!
I would love to have an iPhone but for now, because of the lack of enterprise support, I have to wait. Luckily for me, the BlackBerry does things pretty well so the wait isn't painful.
The bigger question is...is the iPhone something my dad can figure out? (Believe me, that's a tall order!
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Also, IMAP over SSL meets or exceeds any security requirements corporate IT might believe they're fulfilling with integrated solutions. IMAP over SSL is used heavily in academic, government, and military environments that prefer open standards over closed (but admittedly sometimes necessary) groupware systems. That said, secure email using IMAP over SSL, which can be accessed via iPhone AND over a VPN as well if necessary, can be easily provided by any corporate IT department if necessary.
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='441847' date='Jun 30 2007, 12:04 PM
I hope I didn't come across as one of the "haters" -- I agree that the iPhone is a breakthrough
06-30-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JSpira' post='441893' date='Jun 30 2007, 01:02 PM
Apple WANTS enterprise business but they are not ready for that jump yet. Perhaps soon.
Either way, you're right: they're not ready for that jump, and while Apple sometimes dons enterprise clothing, it isn't in the enterprise market in the same sense as IBM, Dell, EMC, and so on.
IMAP over SSL doesn't address the core security features such as remote wipe. That was my point.
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I find this post very interesting, even though I qualify as someones father; also I have no idea what half of you guys, no, mosy of you guys are talking about. I'm a small business owner who believes in technology to the extent that we can afford it, and at the end of the day we save time and money through the investment.
I have been using a blackberry peal (trying it) I have not purchased one for myself yet because I wanted to see the iphone first. The Pearl is easy to carry and works very well as a phone. I have no problem getting my corporate email or my personal email, don't care about using these devices for photos, but being able to google somthing would be nice.
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I have been using a blackberry peal (trying it) I have not purchased one for myself yet because I wanted to see the iphone first. The Pearl is easy to carry and works very well as a phone. I have no problem getting my corporate email or my personal email, don't care about using these devices for photos, but being able to google somthing would be nice.
Just my two cents