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eugeneloke 02-07-2006 06:14 AM

Hi anyone knows if BMW will plonk the upcoming biturbo based on the R6 3.0 into the 6-er?
also any idea when ZSG will be implemented?

0700700 02-07-2006 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by eugeneloke' post='236171' date='Feb 7 2006, 03:14 PM
Hi anyone knows if BMW will plonk the upcoming biturbo based on the R6 3.0 into the 6-er?
also any idea when ZSG will be implemented?

at least one product year after the 335i (if) appears

ZSG will proly first come out in the m3 in 2007/2008 so dont expect it till 2009-2010,
maybe it will come out straight for the F10 coupe

cobradav 02-08-2006 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by 700700' post='236443 (Post 236171)
Hi anyone knows if BMW will plonk the upcoming biturbo based on the R6 3.0 into the 6-er?
also any idea when ZSG will be implemented?

at least one product year after the 335i (if) appears

ZSG will proly first come out in the m3 in 2007/2008 so dont expect it till 2009-2010,
maybe it will come out straight for the F10 coupe
[/quote]
F10 coupe? I am aware of the F12 6er series coupe, but F10 has been reserved for 5 series limo.

0700700 02-08-2006 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by cobradav' post='236842 (Post 236443)

Originally Posted by eugeneloke' post='236171' date='Feb 7 2006, 03:14 PM
Hi anyone knows if BMW will plonk the upcoming biturbo based on the R6 3.0 into the 6-er?
also any idea when ZSG will be implemented?

at least one product year after the 335i (if) appears

ZSG will proly first come out in the m3 in 2007/2008 so dont expect it till 2009-2010,
maybe it will come out straight for the F10 coupe

F10 coupe? I am aware of the F12 6er series coupe, but F10 has been reserved for 5 series limo.
[/quote]

need to check the stats :whistle: nevertheless it doesnt change the other stuff

cobradav 02-08-2006 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 700700' post='237013 (Post 236842)

Originally Posted by 700700' post='236443' date='Feb 7 2006, 06:40 PM
[quote name='eugeneloke' post='236171' date='Feb 7 2006, 03:14 PM']
Hi anyone knows if BMW will plonk the upcoming biturbo based on the R6 3.0 into the 6-er?
also any idea when ZSG will be implemented?

at least one product year after the 335i (if) appears

ZSG will proly first come out in the m3 in 2007/2008 so dont expect it till 2009-2010,
maybe it will come out straight for the F10 coupe

F10 coupe? I am aware of the F12 6er series coupe, but F10 has been reserved for 5 series limo.
[/quote]

need to check the stats :whistle: nevertheless it doesnt change the other stuff
[/quote]
Not a big deal at all :D On the ZSG, do you think it is destined to be the "Performance" tranny or the "drivability" (smooth shifting) tranny. If coming in the M3 as you postulate it would appear it is the "perfomance" they are after.

0700700 02-08-2006 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by cobradav' post='237084' date='Feb 9 2006, 02:47 AM
Not a big deal at all :D On the ZSG, do you think it is destined to be the "Performance" tranny or the "drivability" (smooth shifting) tranny. If coming in the M3 as you postulate it would appear it is the "perfomance" they are after.

i really cant see it being like the ///m zsg transmission. I think it will be similar to the m3 smg / 645i smg, similar technology but less gizmos and slower shift speeds (as in more smooth) on the 6 series.

With dual clutch they can and i bet they will make it almost as an automatic with very smooth shifts on the 6series and much more aggressive shifts on the m3

Centurion 02-09-2006 02:45 PM

I wish I had a link to this, but the way I understood this is that BMW will be offering the ZSG transmission in their regular lineup of cars while they are going to continue to develop and improve SMG for the M division only. Thus, SMG is going away. You'll still find them but only offered in M cars.


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