Xi Owner - Want to lower the car, what are the options?
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Xi Owner - Want to lower the car, what are the options?
I know this topic has been discussed a lot on various forums and it seems all the threads are either old or no one is responding to them. So im trying here haha
To my knowledge:
-Bilstein Shocks and Lowering Springs are a bad idea. Why?
I have heard that the ride is too bouncy or rough. It even made some of the cars sit higher then stock. Ride quality is really bad. Its not worth going that route unless you dont care about ride quality. And just want to be lowered. (insert stance joke here)
-CKS Coilovers
I have read that they are a pain to put in, and since they are made to order/custom members have received parts that do not fit and align.
-KV Coilovers V3
Everyone seems to say that is the BEST way to go. Best ride quality.
Of course the reason why I am asking is because regardless all those 3 options are expensive. I will admit that when I got the car without giving it a second thought I was sure I would only need lowering springs that would cost me around 300 bucks and ride quality wouldnt be effected to a point that I would care. After getting the car and doing research I have found out that lowering springs have really bad ride quality. So when I looked at the alternatives I almost started to shed a tear lol. As coilovers are expensive in general, the ones for the Xi models take the cake by going up to 3,000 bucks. Hell for that much I could get a E30. lol
So my question is am I missing something here? Is there more coilover alternatives? Maybe discounts? etc?
I could wait for another year or two (i owned the car for about 7 months now), and maybe save up for KV3s. I am a college student that is hoping to graduate in December of this year, so maybe haha. The thing is I am also itching to get a E30 bad. I really dont want to put myself into a financial hole lol.
To my knowledge:
-Bilstein Shocks and Lowering Springs are a bad idea. Why?
I have heard that the ride is too bouncy or rough. It even made some of the cars sit higher then stock. Ride quality is really bad. Its not worth going that route unless you dont care about ride quality. And just want to be lowered. (insert stance joke here)
-CKS Coilovers
I have read that they are a pain to put in, and since they are made to order/custom members have received parts that do not fit and align.
-KV Coilovers V3
Everyone seems to say that is the BEST way to go. Best ride quality.
Of course the reason why I am asking is because regardless all those 3 options are expensive. I will admit that when I got the car without giving it a second thought I was sure I would only need lowering springs that would cost me around 300 bucks and ride quality wouldnt be effected to a point that I would care. After getting the car and doing research I have found out that lowering springs have really bad ride quality. So when I looked at the alternatives I almost started to shed a tear lol. As coilovers are expensive in general, the ones for the Xi models take the cake by going up to 3,000 bucks. Hell for that much I could get a E30. lol
So my question is am I missing something here? Is there more coilover alternatives? Maybe discounts? etc?
I could wait for another year or two (i owned the car for about 7 months now), and maybe save up for KV3s. I am a college student that is hoping to graduate in December of this year, so maybe haha. The thing is I am also itching to get a E30 bad. I really dont want to put myself into a financial hole lol.
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In addition to the options you have already listed there are possibly a few more options. This is based on either factual information or an assumption that coilovers made for the E61 XDrive are cross-compatible with E60 XDrive sedans as long they discard the auto leveling setup in the rear and utilize a coil spring. I know that sounds very confusing because it is. Some say that this does not work while others say it will.
FK supposedly has new options coming out very soon. I'm waiting to hear back from Dave at ESE Tuning on these. The previous offerings ranged from basic models around $600 to fully adjustable stainless models with Koni absorbers for around $1,250.00. ESE Tuning told me that these will work with the E60 XDrive sedan.
Member Island Road is currently in the process of developing a setup with ISC Suspension to work on the E61. All indications are that this will be compatible with E60 XDrive sedan. Based on their other offerings, I would expect this option to be around $1,000.00 before options, such as upgraded Swift springs.
Finally, JRZ is willing to do a run of coilovers with rear coil springs. They currently only have the option of front coilovers and retaining the rear auto leveling system in the E61. This is the option that makes the KW V3s seem very affordable. I believe they were looking for ten people to make this happen.
I'm waiting patiently for either the FK or ISC options to confirm fitment on an E60 XDrive sedan.
FK supposedly has new options coming out very soon. I'm waiting to hear back from Dave at ESE Tuning on these. The previous offerings ranged from basic models around $600 to fully adjustable stainless models with Koni absorbers for around $1,250.00. ESE Tuning told me that these will work with the E60 XDrive sedan.
Member Island Road is currently in the process of developing a setup with ISC Suspension to work on the E61. All indications are that this will be compatible with E60 XDrive sedan. Based on their other offerings, I would expect this option to be around $1,000.00 before options, such as upgraded Swift springs.
Finally, JRZ is willing to do a run of coilovers with rear coil springs. They currently only have the option of front coilovers and retaining the rear auto leveling system in the E61. This is the option that makes the KW V3s seem very affordable. I believe they were looking for ten people to make this happen.
I'm waiting patiently for either the FK or ISC options to confirm fitment on an E60 XDrive sedan.
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In addition to the options you have already listed there are possibly a few more options. This is based on either factual information or an assumption that coilovers made for the E61 XDrive are cross-compatible with E60 XDrive sedans as long they discard the auto leveling setup in the rear and utilize a coil spring. I know that sounds very confusing because it is. Some say that this does not work while others say it will.
FK supposedly has new options coming out very soon. I'm waiting to hear back from Dave at ESE Tuning on these. The previous offerings ranged from basic models around $600 to fully adjustable stainless models with Koni absorbers for around $1,250.00. ESE Tuning told me that these will work with the E60 XDrive sedan.
Member Island Road is currently in the process of developing a setup with ISC Suspension to work on the E61. All indications are that this will be compatible with E60 XDrive sedan. Based on their other offerings, I would expect this option to be around $1,000.00 before options, such as upgraded Swift springs.
Finally, JRZ is willing to do a run of coilovers with rear coil springs. They currently only have the option of front coilovers and retaining the rear auto leveling system in the E61. This is the option that makes the KW V3s seem very affordable. I believe they were looking for ten people to make this happen.
I'm waiting patiently for either the FK or ISC options to confirm fitment on an E60 XDrive sedan.
FK supposedly has new options coming out very soon. I'm waiting to hear back from Dave at ESE Tuning on these. The previous offerings ranged from basic models around $600 to fully adjustable stainless models with Koni absorbers for around $1,250.00. ESE Tuning told me that these will work with the E60 XDrive sedan.
Member Island Road is currently in the process of developing a setup with ISC Suspension to work on the E61. All indications are that this will be compatible with E60 XDrive sedan. Based on their other offerings, I would expect this option to be around $1,000.00 before options, such as upgraded Swift springs.
Finally, JRZ is willing to do a run of coilovers with rear coil springs. They currently only have the option of front coilovers and retaining the rear auto leveling system in the E61. This is the option that makes the KW V3s seem very affordable. I believe they were looking for ten people to make this happen.
I'm waiting patiently for either the FK or ISC options to confirm fitment on an E60 XDrive sedan.
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I installed the JRZ coilovers for my E61 wagon. I specifically asked for the rear bags to be used. This is the same as the KW V3 for the E61. However, JRZ is willing to include springs for those that want to replace the rear self leveling suspension. I don't exactly know what else is needed to replace the self leveling suspension to a spring/damper system.
I love the way the JRZs are valved and the control and ride quality I get.
I love the way the JRZs are valved and the control and ride quality I get.
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Retaining the factory self leveling hardware on the rear of the E61 is the less expensive route. JRZs run about 2,800 with stock self leveling system left in place and about $3,300 with rear springs.
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Thats out of the question for me. Iv seen KV3s in the range of 2,500 to 3,000. And 2,500 is a lot to me to just lower my car. Hoping those other companies will respond soon Im willing to spend 1,500 max (and thats even pushing it), hoping to spend no more than 1000 which would be ideal.
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Thats out of the question for me. Iv seen KV3s in the range of 2,500 to 3,000. And 2,500 is a lot to me to just lower my car. Hoping those other companies will respond soon Im willing to spend 1,500 max (and thats even pushing it), hoping to spend no more than 1000 which would be ideal.
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He'll likely be able to buy a new set of coilovers for $1,500 before a used set of KWs pops up in the classifieds.
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Good luck with that. We've all been thru that route.
KW V3 > CKS > springs + bilstein. Those are the only options.
KW V3 is probably the best except for cost. (from all the reviews)
CKS is great for handling, much more sporty than V3, just fall short on quality (personal experience) price is competitive
Springs + bilstein doesn't lower enough for most XI owners. Handling wise you may need consult other owners.