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0700700 01-20-2006 02:34 PM

Was just flicking through the mag at a friends house and got some inreresting info



Well according to them, becuase the new e class (2008) will receive a tuned
4 litre bi-turbo engine producing 354bhp/880nm , bmw will relegate the 535d
with its current output to middle class 5 series diesel, and will offer a 540d with
a detuned 4.5litre diesel engine , which is currently being offered in the 745d...
No predictions of its output, but will be a monster


The new e-class e450cdi will go from 0-62 in 5.5 seconds or less

schocking stuff :geek:

BangleBox_530d 01-21-2006 02:11 AM

MB are reported to be selling diesel cars in the US later this year too. So big idesel engines might be in preparation for that. Same performance as a 5.7L V8, but half the fuel required.

ViperNY 01-21-2006 04:32 AM

Sadly, in New York State you cannot buy a new diesel car. I was originally looking at the 320CDI and searched high and wide. Every dealer I went to was not allowed to sell me one, except a returned lease and none had any demos.

Mind you, I was not happy with the comfort and ride of the 320 and decided to go with a 2006 525i E60 instead. Picked it up a week before christmas, got Nav, premium, cold weater, aurburn interior and Monaco Blue. My very first BMW and I am in love, should have done this years ago.

Maybe by the time my lease is up in 2 years, NYS will allow diesels and I can get a 5 series "D" which from all I read is a pretty amazing car.

BangleBox_530d 01-21-2006 05:20 AM

I've seen many reports that low sulphur diesel will be available in the US later this year. I guess until then BMW won't want to sell diesels.

KAF 01-21-2006 11:42 AM

The biggest problem with diesels in the US as I understand it is the need to comply with emmisions regulations in some states.

MB announced what they call thier BLUETEC diesel engine at Detroit MS.

Others will follow, lets see if 'oil burners' can infiltrate the US market in the same way they have Eurpoe. Though in the UK Diesel is more expensive than Unleaded, ( ?0.93 per litre, ?4.20 per gallon, (thats $7.35 per gallon guys in the US !!!) due to taxation) and unless you exceed about 20,000 miles per year (average is 10,000) it is hardly worth it.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/63542/gr..._the_blues.html

colejl 01-21-2006 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Farrow' post='227543' date='Jan 21 2006, 08:42 PM
The biggest problem with diesels in the US as I understand it is the need to comply with emmisions regulations in some states.

MB announced what they call thier BLUETEC diesel engine at Detroit MS.

Others will follow, lets see if 'oil burners' can infiltrate the US market in the same way they have Eurpoe. Though in the UK Diesel is more expensive than Unleaded, ( ?0.93 per litre, ?4.20 per gallon, (thats $7.35 per gallon guys in the US !!!) due to taxation) and unless you exceed about 20,000 miles per year (average is 10,000) it is hardly worth it.

AutoExpress ran an article on this recently and the conclusions where far better! I think the 'break even' point for a 5-series was about 1,000 miles per year then you're better off buying the diesel... (This is taking into consideration all running costs including depreciation, insurance, servicing etc.)

Basically the bigger the car is it's better to buy diesel...

niktee 01-22-2006 03:09 AM

The fuel economy of diesels over gasoline engines has advantages, but unlike Europe, here in the U.S., we have no tax incentives to buy diesel, nor are diesel prices lower(actually diesel costs more in most instances). Performance/fuel economy-yes, but that's all. I don't know if that's enough to off-set the higher initial purchace price of diesel.

ats77 01-22-2006 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by 700700' post='227160' date='Jan 21 2006, 12:34 AM
Was just flicking through the mag at a friends house and got some inreresting info



Well according to them, becuase the new e class (2008) will receive a tuned
4 litre bi-turbo engine producing 354bhp/880nm , bmw will relegate the 535d
with its current output to middle class 5 series diesel, and will offer a 540d with
a detuned 4.5litre diesel engine , which is currently being offered in the 745d...
No predictions of its output, but will be a monster


The new e-class e450cdi will go from 0-62 in 5.5 seconds or less

schocking stuff :geek:

E class is a joke! :lol:

SolanNo1 01-22-2006 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by ViperNY' post='227410' date='Jan 21 2006, 08:32 AM
Sadly, in New York State you cannot buy a new diesel car.

I don't think you can buy a diesel anywhere in the North East.

colejl 01-22-2006 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by niktee' post='227753' date='Jan 22 2006, 12:09 PM
The fuel economy of diesels over gasoline engines has advantages, but unlike Europe, here in the U.S., we have no tax incentives to buy diesel, nor are diesel prices lower(actually diesel costs more in most instances). Performance/fuel economy-yes, but that's all. I don't know if that's enough to off-set the higher initial purchace price of diesel.

Indeed, If I was in the US I'd have a 550i :devil:


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