Toyota is getting ruined by the media!
03-09-2010, 12:54 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ry?id=10046912
Play the video on right bottom left. Go to 3:07 thats not a Toyota out of control thats a BMW revving.
Play the video on right bottom left. Go to 3:07 thats not a Toyota out of control thats a BMW revving.
03-09-2010, 01:34 PM
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http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=10046912
Play the video on right bottom left. Go to 3:07 thats not a Toyota out of control thats a BMW revving.
Play the video on right bottom left. Go to 3:07 thats not a Toyota out of control thats a BMW revving.
The video you refer to is most probably the dismantling of the appallingly poor ABC story, also by Brian Ross, where that "expert" claimed he could trigger unintended acceleration without the car throwing an error code.
See the link below for what seems to be the real story behind how he did it (and yes, he may as well have just placed a brick on the pedal) and also the same thing being done to a Ford, MB, Honda, Chevy and a BMW...
http://jalopnik.com/5488464/the-mech...eleration-hoax
03-09-2010, 02:00 PM
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If a manufacture makes a car that kills it's owner....then I really don't see how it's bad that the company is getting "ruined" by the media..IMHO
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Except that the evidence presented thus far can largely lead the reasonable person to only one inescapable conclusion: Toyota isn't building cars that are killing their owners. The witch hunt and the related media circus is, most probably, almost entirely bogus and is little more than a masterclass in the stupidity and gullibility of more people than I ever imagined to be reasonably possible. Anyone who saw any of the Congressional testimony, actually understood the agendas, financial ties and incentives provided to certain key witnesses, had read Ed Wallace's excellent article in Business Week, understood how David Gilbert seemingly achieved his supposed results replicating the unintended acceleration incidents (which were reported with a devastating lack of journalistic integrity by ABC), and still thinks that there's any basis to these reports, is a complete and utter moron. All IMHO of course.
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Except that the evidence presented thus far can largely lead the reasonable person to only one inescapable conclusion: Toyota isn't building cars that are killing their owners. The witch hunt and the related media circus is, most probably, almost entirely bogus and is little more than a masterclass in the stupidity and gullibility of more people than I ever imagined to be reasonably possible. Anyone who saw any of the Congressional testimony, actually understood the agendas, financial ties and incentives provided to certain key witnesses, had read Ed Wallace's excellent article in Business Week, understood how David Gilbert seemingly achieved his supposed results replicating the unintended acceleration incidents (which were reported with a devastating lack of journalistic integrity by ABC), and still thinks that there's any basis to these reports, is a complete and utter moron. All IMHO of course.
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I am not saying there aren't issues, and any that may have resulted in a consequential injury or loss of life is both tragic and regrettable, but this is being blown out of all reasonable proportion. Ed Wallace's article in Business Week, posted here by me last week, captures some of the reasons why.
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I may have missed it, but I was of the understanding that 2008 Prius WAS NOT on the list for acceleration issues.
(The recent in San Diego was a 2008 Prius).
(The recent in San Diego was a 2008 Prius).
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Essentially. I am saying that many if not most of these incidents will ultimately be found to be attributable to driver error, that many of the reports we are seeing (from both individuals and from otherwise reputable new organizations) will ultimately be found to be embellished or bogus, and that the number of actual issues that are, after proper and thorough investigation found to be properly attributable to manufacturing or design issues, will be few and far between and statistically insignificant. I don't own or drive a Toyota, I have no dog in the fight so to speak, but it's readily apparent to those who care to look that all is not as it seems here.
I am not saying there aren't issues, and any that may have resulted in a consequential injury or loss of life is both tragic and regrettable, but this is being blown out of all reasonable proportion. Ed Wallace's article in Business Week, posted here by me last week, captures some of the reasons why.
I am not saying there aren't issues, and any that may have resulted in a consequential injury or loss of life is both tragic and regrettable, but this is being blown out of all reasonable proportion. Ed Wallace's article in Business Week, posted here by me last week, captures some of the reasons why.
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Essentially. I am saying that many if not most of these incidents will ultimately be found to be attributable to driver error, that many of the reports we are seeing (from both individuals and from otherwise reputable new organizations) will ultimately be found to be embellished or bogus, and that the number of actual issues that are, after proper and thorough investigation found to be properly attributable to manufacturing or design issues, will be few and far between and statistically insignificant. I don't own or drive a Toyota, I have no dog in the fight so to speak, but it's readily apparent to those who care to look that all is not as it seems here.
I am not saying there aren't issues, and any that may have resulted in a consequential injury or loss of life is both tragic and regrettable, but this is being blown out of all reasonable proportion. Ed Wallace's article in Business Week, posted here by me last week, captures some of the reasons why.
I am not saying there aren't issues, and any that may have resulted in a consequential injury or loss of life is both tragic and regrettable, but this is being blown out of all reasonable proportion. Ed Wallace's article in Business Week, posted here by me last week, captures some of the reasons why.
Maybe it is blown out of proportion, but still it has cost 5 people their lives.
Why must you always disagree with everything James!?!
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While I agree that many Toyota drivers will "think" their gas pedal is sticking out of fear that it will...there is OBVIOUSLY a problem with the gas pedals.
Maybe it is blown out of proportion, but still it has cost 5 people their lives.
Why must you always disagree with everything James!?!
Maybe it is blown out of proportion, but still it has cost 5 people their lives.
Why must you always disagree with everything James!?!
He has a point - what you are seeing now with Toyota is very similar to what Audi went through back in the 80's. However, I still find it hard to believe that so many people could die from being the same kind of stupid.