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Old 08-01-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by robg' post='317758' date='Aug 2 2006, 12:12 AM
I simply cannot agree with this. If someone says they want to kill me, and then they really try to kill me, I will fight back.
Right, of course you will try to kill him, but not all of his neighbours, because you know that he lives somewhere among them That is a fascist practice :thumbsdown:
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Originally Posted by robg' post='317758' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:12 PM
I simply cannot agree with this. If someone says they want to kill me, and then they really try to kill me, I will fight back.
sure you are luck in NYC you can do it, try here to defend yourself and you are in jail. so different laws and people. When the ruined my car I wud def cut their hands off w a macheta I got... but hey in 2006 I cannot, secondly luckily nobody found them so I could not Vilonce is need it to be shout out but violance is stupid, cheers but no offence and I am happy if we do not agree as that means life is not boring imagine if all wud always just agree on all.
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Originally Posted by Selene' post='317767' date='Aug 1 2006, 02:31 PM
if you dont know that Israel got more advnaced wepon the US.
I just wanted to point out that Israel does not have more advanced weapons than the US. We actually sell them our outdated weapons. We also sell everyone else in the middle east our outdated weapons, we just sell everyone else even more outdated weapons than Israel.
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I feel so tempted to comment on Selene's post...

But I've learned a couple things in my life, such as: never argue with woman, stay out of trouble such as foglight topics, and don't discuss politics on a car forum...

Let's just say that our thoughts and prayers are with those that are affected by this war and let's hope that this conflict will somehow come to an end somewhen soon.
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Originally Posted by Heiss5' post='317772' date='Aug 2 2006, 01:42 AM
I just wanted to point out that Israel does not have more advanced weapons than the US. We actually sell them our outdated weapons. We also sell everyone else in the middle east our outdated weapons, we just sell everyone else even more outdated weapons than Israel.
really.. outdated weapons.. .. I'm bad at politacs.. hate too.. ..
Thanks for clearing the point mate
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loool.. I like it never argu with a women.. sorry guys .. I'm over reacting..I saw alot of dead pictures..
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Originally Posted by Selene' post='317767' date='Aug 1 2006, 02:31 PM
One thing to clarify .. get back and see what hezballah demanding from Israel..

if you think that hezballah is a terrosrist group, then consider the french revelotion and consider every fight had been on a land owner to inverder

if you dont know that Israel got more advnaced wepon the US.

if you dont know that Israel dosn't tell a single true.

I hate to see civilans killed by a killing machine... if that was your country the I can say that your the first to fight.

lets see the damge the Isreal done to lebnon and what Hezballah done to Isreal.. the gun machine your defeting killed over 800 inocent ppl..

I consider a Hezballah as hero's ..

I didnt see Hezballah moving in Isreal lands but I seen Isreal doing it ..

at the End what is most important to me the incoent childern who saw the death of their perants and mothers seeing their child dying !!..

if you saw this .. as u stated that if someone say they want to kill me, and then they reall try to kill me, I will fight back..
hundered of lebaness saw what ur about to fight for..
wouldnt u then join the fight!!
I'm not saying Isreal is right in the way they're handling this.. But i was just speaking in general.
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Originally Posted by Selene' post='317767' date='Aug 1 2006, 05:31 PM
I didnt see Hezballah moving in Isreal lands but I seen Isreal doing it ..
Maybe you missed it, but his round of the conflict started when Hezbollah militants crossed into Israel and killed and kidnapped Israeli soldiers.
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Originally Posted by Selene' post='317780' date='Aug 1 2006, 02:49 PM
really.. outdated weapons.. .. I'm bad at politacs.. hate too.. ..
Thanks for clearing the point mate
No worries, I admit that it's pretty easy to think that Israel has the best weapons because they actually use theirs. The US doesn't ever use any of their best weapons because, well they cost too much to use, and why use the newest and best stuff when we have so much of the old stuff just laying around collecting dust. But seriously, we sell everyone and their uncle our old weapons because it makes us seem like a team player. We'll help you wipe out your enemies if you'll be our friend. We'll also sell your enemies the same weapons so that they'll be our friend too, but we just wont tell you that. At the same time, for every weapon we sell you, we keep 5 to ourselves, we also keep 5 for every one we sell your enemies. This way, we know who has weapons, how many they have, what they are capable of, and we also know that we outnumber everyone 5 to 1. That way, if the next top 15 nations in the world decided to attack the US, we would know that we still outnumber them in gun power. It's kind of sick really. Rather than help foreign countries set up the economic means they need to support a healthy political system, such as a strong agricultural base with high tarrifs on imported goods allowing the domestic companies a chance to grow, we sell the corrupt political leaders the weapons they think they need to wipe out their enemies and just give them truck loads of corn that really do them no good in the long run. Pretty twisted.
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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='317779' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:48 PM
I feel so tempted to comment on Selene's post...

But I've learned a couple things in my life, such as: never argue with woman, stay out of trouble such as foglight topics, and don't discuss politics on a car forum...

Let's just say that our thoughts and prayers are with those that are affected by this war and let's hope that this conflict will somehow come to an end somewhen soon.
Too late Andre, I have failed miserably in all 3 !

Seriously, some replies are pretty well founded and I respect them. Personally it's just about expressing thoughts and discussing based on arguments. I want to learn from my fellow members here and I appreciate the oppurtunity to listen as to how they interpret current affairs from each members part of the world. I think this is the strongest point that unites us as a forum.

I would want to discuss in the same manner as if I was face to face with you guys; with respect and healthy arguments ! It's easy to throw one liners of hate, but this, as Iceman noted, doesn't belong here...

....btw, this is general announcement - not to anyone personally.


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