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Old 10-13-2009, 05:48 AM
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How are so many people here affording an E60 if they don't have $100k+ jobs? Or is it that everyone's leasing them?
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Originally Posted by poleposition' post='1031215' date='Oct 13 2009, 09:24 AM
pukka, I am aware of the attributes one would need to constitute a "good" salesperson. All I'm saying is this: there once was a time when having confidence and a good mouthpiece and a likeable personality was able to get you by as a "salesperson" and true knowledge of the product wasnt that important. These days, that doesnt really exist anymore. To garner a base salary of 100K+ commissions, you best know your product upside down. I am speaking from experience. I started out 18 yrs ago as a low six figure buckwild type of salesman. Confident in my sales ability but not caring about the product. Made lots of $ so gained even more confidence in my abilities and lack of true knowledge. Then I grew up. This is my big brother opportunity. Take it for what its worth.
For a BASE six-figure salary, I agree with you. I was thinking 100k potential after commissions - I must have misread the OP.

I can't argue with 18 years experience, but I have done technical consultant work for a corporation whose salesforce wasn't knowledgeable on the product the way you would think they should be. On some levels, this sales mentality still does exist.

Regardless - thanks for the big bro opp.
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='1031228' date='Oct 13 2009, 06:48 AM
How are so many people here affording an E60 if they don't have $100k+ jobs? Or is it that everyone's leasing them?
We're not all in sales. And don't be fooled. The best sales guys, in the right field, can (and should) be very well remunerated. I know sales guys making over a million.

Very best of luck to all of the guys here looking for work.
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Originally Posted by poleposition' post='1031215' date='Oct 13 2009, 06:24 AM
pukka, I am aware of the attributes one would need to constitute a "good" salesperson. All I'm saying is this: there once was a time when having confidence and a good mouthpiece and a likeable personality was able to get you by as a "salesperson" and true knowledge of the product wasnt that important. These days, that doesnt really exist anymore. To garner a base salary of 100K+ commissions, you best know your product upside down. I am speaking from experience. I started out 18 yrs ago as a low six figure buckwild type of salesman. Confident in my sales ability but not caring about the product. Made lots of $ so gained even more confidence in my abilities and lack of true knowledge. Then I grew up. This is my big brother opportunity. Take it for what its worth.
+1. You're absolutely dead on as always, PolePosition.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='1031238' date='Oct 13 2009, 04:13 PM
We're not all in sales. And don't be fooled. The best sales guys can (and should be) very well remunerated. I know sales guys making over a million.
Now that's what I'm talking 'bout. Personally I won't get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='1031238' date='Oct 13 2009, 10:13 AM
We're not all in sales. And don't be fooled. The best sales guys can (and should be) very well remunerated. I know sales guys making over a million.

Very best of luck to all the guys looking for work.
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Originally Posted by buckwildx22' post='1030777' date='Oct 12 2009, 06:32 PM
As you people prob know by now, i've been out of a job for a while now and cant seem to find a 6 figure job in sales. There are so many BS companies out there and i don't want to waste any time. If any members here are working in a sales field or works for a sales field. Please let me know. I would love to check it out. HELP A BROTHER OUT =) I need to find a job asap my savings are depleting.

if you believe you qualify for the 6figure+ market....try here : http://www.theladders.com/
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Originally Posted by poleposition' post='1031215
if you believe you qualify for the 6figure+ market....try here : http://www.theladders.com/
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Originally Posted by mrfva' post='1031289' date='Oct 13 2009, 05:05 PM
Well said. A salesperson who doesn't know what he's selling creates more problems in the end. He may be able to close the deal, but this creates more problems down the road, especially in the Tech/IT industry
+1000 to that. I'm sick of our salespeople selling things we haven't developed. Throw together a proof-of-concept prototype of something and if they get wind of it being successful they'll be selling it and promising it before we can feasibly develop a quality production version of whatever it is.
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='1031228' date='Oct 13 2009, 09:48 AM
How are so many people here affording an E60 if they don't have $100k+ jobs? Or is it that everyone's leasing them?
I am not in sales. luckily I am in an industry that IS trying to hire people and is falling short. Forbes just ranked my job 9th best in America. I count my blessings every day.

Personally, I dont think I could do sales unless I REALLY knew what I was selling inside and out.

I do wish you all looking for jobs the best of luck. My mother is in real estate and currently having a very difficult time. That is as close to home as the recession has hit for me.


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