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10-31-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='709046' date='Oct 31 2008, 05:57 PM
I think you are dead on and I agree 100%. F1 is nothing if it's not an an engineering showcase where the manufacturers - BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Honda, Toyota etc - are pitching themselves and their engineering capabilities against each other in an unbelievably competitive environment. Take that away and I'd fully expect the top manufacturers would walk, and I wouldn't blame them if they did. I don't think this will happen, but if it does then it kills F1.
PS: There are many other factors why Indy lost popularity but its slowly gaining that back.
10-31-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='708913' date='Oct 31 2008, 02:32 PM
Uhmmm no. In fact i would react the same. It's a pity that we already have only one tire manufacturer in a pure competitive sport. Think of it this way: Michelin said they will not even bid for the spot of the sole provider of tires because in their philosophy this is all about competition and always bettering yourself. If there is no competition how can exist real improvement?!?
The same with the engines. If FIA will turn F1 slowly into a mono marque competition that would ruin everything about this pinnacle of motor sport, not to mention history of competition between brands. I say mono marque because we already have only ONE tire provider, only ONE ECU provider and if the engines go monopoly than what's the point of the competition? Also there will clearly be no more show.
F1 cars are already so close to one another that on more than 60 maybe even 70% of the tracks in the calendar it's very very hard to find good overtaking spots (and i'm not talking here Ferrari vs Force India).
Anyway bottom line for me is that if FIA decides to kill F1 in 2010 then i will for sure stop watching. Enough is enough already!
The same with the engines. If FIA will turn F1 slowly into a mono marque competition that would ruin everything about this pinnacle of motor sport, not to mention history of competition between brands. I say mono marque because we already have only ONE tire provider, only ONE ECU provider and if the engines go monopoly than what's the point of the competition? Also there will clearly be no more show.
F1 cars are already so close to one another that on more than 60 maybe even 70% of the tracks in the calendar it's very very hard to find good overtaking spots (and i'm not talking here Ferrari vs Force India).
Anyway bottom line for me is that if FIA decides to kill F1 in 2010 then i will for sure stop watching. Enough is enough already!
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='708913' date='Nov 1 2008, 03:32 AM
Anyway bottom line for me is that if FIA decides to kill F1 in 2010 then i will for sure stop watching. Enough is enough already!
I will suport my man Hamilton
If it dose go ahead with the same engines, then Hamilton will beat Schumacher record of wins.
10-31-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard in NC' post='709081' date='Nov 1 2008, 06:24 AM
A single engine didn't kill Indy but Indy never was about production manufacturers competiting. I think it would really hurt F1.
PS: There are many other factors why Indy lost popularity but its slowly gaining that back.
PS: There are many other factors why Indy lost popularity but its slowly gaining that back.
are they any good?
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I think you are dead on and I agree 100%. F1 is nothing if it's not an an engineering showcase where the manufacturers - BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, Honda, Toyota etc - are pitching themselves and their engineering capabilities against each other in an unbelievably competitive environment. Take that away and I'd fully expect the top manufacturers would walk, and I wouldn't blame them if they did. I don't think this will happen, but if it does then it kills F1.
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='709382' date='Nov 1 2008, 02:39 AM
I never seen a Indy race
are they any good?
are they any good?
I always watch the big one, the Indy 500. There is a lot of tradition and pagentry having been run for almost 100 years (since 1911). Indy is a 2 1/2 mile rectangle. They run 220-230mph foot to the floor most of the lap sometimes 3 wide. Half the other races are on ovals like Nascar, the others are on street courses. Most of the news centers on Danica Patrick, especially when she was a rookie and almost won the Indy 500. She finally won a race this year and no longer headlines every race.
Here is a link to a recent photo finish, never seen in F1 Chicagoland Indy Race and the Indy 500 highlights: Indy 500
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Slightly off topic and appologies if it's a repost but OMG have you seen this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuIbO2Ul1U Turn your speakers UP . 
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Originally Posted by M3>535d' post='709518' date='Nov 1 2008, 07:27 AM
Slightly off topic and appologies if it's a repost but OMG have you seen this F1 safety car vs Medical car Turn your speakers UP .
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Originally Posted by M3>535d' post='709518' date='Nov 1 2008, 06:27 PM
Slightly off topic and appologies if it's a repost but OMG have you seen this F1 safety car vs Medical car Turn your speakers UP .
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Very impressive. I've been to several GPs in recent years, including the 2006 Indy race, but did not see this event. I've always been impressed with the speed and skill of the Safety Car drivers. Thanks for sharing!