The Death of Tuner Companies
05-15-2009, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWRINO' post='879672' date='May 15 2009, 05:54 PM
that was a whole lot of reading for a lazy Friday afternoon at work.. thank PTL for sharing your thoughts..
People tend to stop reading if the post is too long. Attention span for internet forum is short usually, I guess.
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Originally Posted by PraiseTheLowered' post='879776' date='May 15 2009, 07:21 PM
lol assholes
dont get all bent out of shape.
I mean a product that is invented by a company and then copied
Like the RPI exhausts, then some cheapo company comes out with TPI exhausts that claim the same everything but are obviously inferior
dont get all bent out of shape.
I mean a product that is invented by a company and then copied
Like the RPI exhausts, then some cheapo company comes out with TPI exhausts that claim the same everything but are obviously inferior
05-15-2009, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CWS530' post='879780' date='May 15 2009, 05:33 PM
C'mon PTL, how long have we known each other on here mang? I'm just saying that not all the stuff I buy is OEM.
its all good man
it doesnt have to be oem it can be from any company that invents a product whether that be a cf hood, a front lip, AE's or whatever.
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Originally Posted by theXman' post='879779' date='May 15 2009, 05:32 PM
+1
People tend to stop reading if the post is too long. Attention span for internet forum is short usually, I guess.
People tend to stop reading if the post is too long. Attention span for internet forum is short usually, I guess.
lol i tried to make it short and concise but thats as short as I wanted it. My bad. Ill draw something in crayons next time too lol
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Originally Posted by PraiseTheLowered' post='879776' date='May 15 2009, 05:21 PM
lol assholes
dont get all bent out of shape.
I mean a product that is invented by a company and then copied
Like the RPI exhausts, then some cheapo company comes out with TPI exhausts that claim the same everything but are obviously inferior
dont get all bent out of shape.
I mean a product that is invented by a company and then copied
Like the RPI exhausts, then some cheapo company comes out with TPI exhausts that claim the same everything but are obviously inferior
I joke.. I joke.. Hope everyone is off to a good start for their weekend!
05-15-2009, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWRINO' post='879868' date='May 15 2009, 08:05 PM
What's the HP increase on this TPI Exhaust? PTL can you organize a group buy??
I joke.. I joke.. Hope everyone is off to a good start for their weekend!
I joke.. I joke.. Hope everyone is off to a good start for their weekend!
lol yeah group buy is up and running they need 180% down payment of $300 first
they say it takes up to 52 weeks for them to make just one and they need atleast 100 people to do this
they also said they have to ship it superman express which is $100000
07-28-2009, 12:36 PM
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Lovely article.
There is a lot to be said about copying and mass production in our society in general. Someone spends massive amounts of energy researching and developing a unique product that works efficiently and another walks up and takes the idea as their own, jimmy-rigs it, or makes it faster and cheaper...quite often NOT better because the time to research was not spent. Craft comes with time, patience, and a great amount of diligence and attention to detail. When things are rushed or mass produced, you get a tweaked copy of something that was once in it's origination, a higher standard. Like a stamp, the ink fades with each stamp until parts of the stamp are no longer there but imagined to be.
It is obvious to me, knowing that there are different people in this industry who offer different types of filters, or intake and exhaust systems, that some people care less about quality and more about appearances. It's is even more obvious to me that people who care less about how much they have or what they look like that they are more concerned about their quality of life, and the overall performance of their cars.
Who am I to say whether a person should have quality? All I am saying is, why not have both - appearance, quality, AND at the best value possible.
Thank you PraiseTheLowerd! Well written and articulated. Keep em' coming!
There is a lot to be said about copying and mass production in our society in general. Someone spends massive amounts of energy researching and developing a unique product that works efficiently and another walks up and takes the idea as their own, jimmy-rigs it, or makes it faster and cheaper...quite often NOT better because the time to research was not spent. Craft comes with time, patience, and a great amount of diligence and attention to detail. When things are rushed or mass produced, you get a tweaked copy of something that was once in it's origination, a higher standard. Like a stamp, the ink fades with each stamp until parts of the stamp are no longer there but imagined to be.
It is obvious to me, knowing that there are different people in this industry who offer different types of filters, or intake and exhaust systems, that some people care less about quality and more about appearances. It's is even more obvious to me that people who care less about how much they have or what they look like that they are more concerned about their quality of life, and the overall performance of their cars.
Who am I to say whether a person should have quality? All I am saying is, why not have both - appearance, quality, AND at the best value possible.
Thank you PraiseTheLowerd! Well written and articulated. Keep em' coming!
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Originally Posted by PraiseTheLowered' post='879607' date='May 15 2009, 01:44 PM
lol well that would be ideal but it seems that many of the new threads are for rep spoilers, roof spoilers, wheels etc etc
ill look at your french jokes thread lol
ill look at your french jokes thread lol
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Originally Posted by Michelle@RPI' post='957126' date='Jul 28 2009, 01:36 PM
Lovely article.
There is a lot to be said about copying and mass production in our society in general. Someone spends massive amounts of energy researching and developing a unique product that works efficiently and another walks up and takes the idea as their own, jimmy-rigs it, or makes it faster and cheaper...quite often NOT better because the time to research was not spent. Craft comes with time, patience, and a great amount of diligence and attention to detail. When things are rushed or mass produced, you get a tweaked copy of something that was once in it's origination, a higher standard. Like a stamp, the ink fades with each stamp until parts of the stamp are no longer there but imagined to be.
It is obvious to me, knowing that there are different people in this industry who offer different types of filters, or intake and exhaust systems, that some people care less about quality and more about appearances. It's is even more obvious to me that people who care less about how much they have or what they look like that they are more concerned about their quality of life, and the overall performance of their cars.
Who am I to say whether a person should have quality? All I am saying is, why not have both - appearance, quality, AND at the best value possible.
Thank you PraiseTheLowerd! Well written and articulated. Keep em' coming!
There is a lot to be said about copying and mass production in our society in general. Someone spends massive amounts of energy researching and developing a unique product that works efficiently and another walks up and takes the idea as their own, jimmy-rigs it, or makes it faster and cheaper...quite often NOT better because the time to research was not spent. Craft comes with time, patience, and a great amount of diligence and attention to detail. When things are rushed or mass produced, you get a tweaked copy of something that was once in it's origination, a higher standard. Like a stamp, the ink fades with each stamp until parts of the stamp are no longer there but imagined to be.
It is obvious to me, knowing that there are different people in this industry who offer different types of filters, or intake and exhaust systems, that some people care less about quality and more about appearances. It's is even more obvious to me that people who care less about how much they have or what they look like that they are more concerned about their quality of life, and the overall performance of their cars.
Who am I to say whether a person should have quality? All I am saying is, why not have both - appearance, quality, AND at the best value possible.
Thank you PraiseTheLowerd! Well written and articulated. Keep em' coming!
Michele,
You guys at RPI are a little different, the scoops for instance are some of the most reasonable mods we can do - c'mon $99 isn't much. Even your exhausts are proven to provide good ROI, real gains over stock at a pretty affordable price. That equals value. Too many other tuner companies try to get the most $$$$ out of us instead of focusing on the value proposition.