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Old 08-07-2006, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='319807' date='Aug 7 2006, 05:03 PM
Breaking news - I think you may have just got your wish - sooner than we thought.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/5243540.stm

Jacques is out with immediate effect
Whodaman? Robertdaman

Watch what happens to Formula 1 now. Half of Poland will become F1 experts and follow this guy round Europe. We have ZERO successes in any sports currently. When we had a gold winning ski jumper (Adam Małysz) the whole country went berserk. There is a major greed for sports success and Kubica will be on the receiving end.

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Originally Posted by swajames' post='319807' date='Aug 7 2006, 06:03 PM
Breaking news - I think you may have just got your wish - sooner than we thought.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/5243540.stm

Jacques is out with immediate effect
Ahhhhh i saw the news first but you bet me to posting it. From my last visit on
http://www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/en/index.html
It seems after all Dr Theissen listens to me....

Yes he is out. Kubica in
OH MAN OH MAN i hardly wait for the next years debut when BMW will finally be on it's own and probably start to get the results it deserves. Hope the drivers will do their job. No Williams no Sauber no nothing....That's why in a way i retained myself from buying alot of clothes and stuff from bmw sauber f1, cuz i know how wierd it is to wear outdated clothes like ones from the last year with williams bmw.

PS: Just found a spanish torrent with the budapest gp. Downloading now....
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You can read up on him and his career here:


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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='319873' date='Aug 7 2006, 10:07 PM
You can read up on him and his career here:
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Thanx for the link. I feel your excitement since he is polish but he has yet to prove himself as a real f1 racing driver. He's just at the begining, a sparkle that can or cannot turn into a big star. He has alot of work to do but he has talent i have to admit and he has determination. Also i appreciate very much the fact that he didn't come in F1 with his suitcase full of money like some young drivers do. I hope he starts to get results since i always saw that he was capable from bmw-sauber f1 site when they post free practice laps with all 3 drivers, i thought it was a matter of when, till he pushes one of the veterans away.
PS: Quite ugly guy but non the less simpathic. I mean he's not a pretty face but that doesn't matter too much. Go Kubica !!!
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How about Dr Theissen would care more for rules, and loosing a race for 2 KGs... Good luck thou1 to Polish driver. I am happy that the HUN is no more there... waist of money for nothing.
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='319883' date='Aug 7 2006, 12:42 PM
How about Dr Theissen would care more for rules, and loosing a race for 2 KGs... Good luck thou1 to Polish driver. I am happy that the HUN is no more there... waist of money for nothing.
The 2kg underweight appears to have been attributable to nothing more than excessive tire wear. BMW were praised for their cooperation in the investigation and there was never any suggestion that there was impropriety involved. I'd hazard a guess that many, many cars tested in Parc Ferme at race end barely squeeze over the minimum weight limit - Kubica and BMW were just unlucky. That said given the condition of Schumacher's tires he could easily have found himself in the same boat.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='319893' date='Aug 7 2006, 10:44 PM
The 2kg underweight appears to have been attributable to nothing more than excessive tire wear. BMW were praised for their cooperation in the investigation and there was never any suggestion that there was impropriety involved. I'd hazard a guess that many, many cars tested in Parc Ferme at race end barely squeeze over the minimum weight limit - Kubica and BMW were just unlucky. That said given the condition of Schumacher's tires he could easily have found himself in the same boat.
I only meant poor Kubica the rest was not important. I am not against BMW, that is my luv no2., but in F1 sorry they are very far from being pro...with some yrs and indipendent attitude in innventions new engines may be...
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='319895' date='Aug 7 2006, 11:53 PM
I only meant poor Kubica the rest was not important. I am not against BMW, that is my luv no2., but in F1 sorry they are very far from being pro...with some yrs and indipendent attitude in innventions new engines may be...
Of course ats but it's easiy to luv the best of the best no? Just out of couriosity if bmw say would become a top team in the next years with a good and skilled driver, battling for the world championship what team would you support?!
I for one don't like people (in general i don't have anything with you ) that support the best. Nothing wrong with that as far as you always did that from the begining, from the start you became a supporter of that team...but as long as you like a car maker and stuff, you support a completly different team because...? they are competitive enough to challange the world champion or what? Being pro? Man this is the team's 1st year...and imo one should consider the fact that this season is almost a test season because only from next year bmw will be 100% independent and the team will be completly bmw. Dr Theissen just came at bmw f1, recently before that focusing his attention to wtcc, but now he is all F1. Maybe when they will become pro you will support the team....fair enough.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='319905' date='Aug 7 2006, 11:22 PM
Of course ats but it's easiy to luv the best of the best no? Just out of couriosity if bmw say would become a top team in the next years with a good and skilled driver, battling for the world championship what team would you support?!
I for one don't like people (in general i don't have anything with you ) that support the best. Nothing wrong with that as far as you always from the begining were a supporter of that team...but as long as you like a car maker and stuff, you support a completly different team because...? they are competitive enough to challange the world champion or what? Being pro? Man this is the team's 1st year...and imo one should consider the fact that this season is almost a test season because only from next year bmw will be 100% independent and the team will be completly bmw. Dr Theissen just came at bmw f1, recently before that focusing his attention to wtcc, but now he is all F1. Maybe when they will become pro you will support the team....fair enough.
see I do not drive a Ferrari (no yet) I always lved BMW and spec. in F1 when Ralph was there, when they showed the new beauty see your avatar so no offence, but now they disappoint is fans, as the engine blows or other gimmicks, hey in Dingolfing they mention BMW is on the right track normally indipendent from Williams at least. But hey all we need is results, the rest is... it will take time. I will always support the team but till MS dies I will be for him as he is a pro only R.I.P. dear Senna was like that, or may be Schumi is near AS. So for me its nothing personal mate, true that this Budapest GP was pits for me, but the race was indeed very nice, very advanterous, but there is a "war" for points, so either we do not play it for point the WC or those who are great drivers do not intervene in this fight, sure I know it is impossible but that wud be fair at least. M5 beats some Ferraris now, but that is streets and this is F1, so in F1 I hope BMW will prove something. One of the biggest BMW shop is in Dingolfing and M?nchen and you saw my collection and love for this brand but for F1 I did not buy anything until they will win, sure no worry I do not either wear Renault Tees, even if Clio sport is fast, still not a BMW

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Originally Posted by ats77' post='319910' date='Aug 8 2006, 12:34 AM
see I do not drive a Ferrari (no yet) I always lved BMW and spec. in F1 when Ralph was there, when they showed the new beauty see your avatar so no offence, but now they disappoint is fans, as the engine blows or other gimmicks, hey in Dingolfing they mention BMW is on the right track normally indipendent from Williams at least. But hey all we need is results, the rest is... it will take time. I will always support the team but till MS dies I will be for him as he is a pro only R.I.P. dear Senna was like that, or may be Schumi is near AS. So for me its nothing personal mate, true that this Budapest GP was pits for me, but the race was indeed very nice, very advanterous, but there is a "war" for points, so either we do not play it for point the WC or those who are great drivers do not intervene in this fight, sure I know it is impossible but that wud be fair at least. M5 beats some Ferraris now, but that is streets and this is F1, so in F1 I hope BMW will prove something. One of the biggest BMW shop is in Dingolfing and M?nchen and you saw my collection and love for this brand but for F1 I did not buy anything until they will win, sure no worry I do not either wear Renault Tees, even if Clio sport is fast, still not a BMW

me no hate BMW (luv)

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