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Old 10-04-2012, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gene
looks like your f10 was one of the "early builds" (11/2010), glad everything for the most part has been resolved..
Thanks. Unfortunately, the first year production cars are always a hit or miss.
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I define the term "reliable" differently than the term "problem-free".

To me, reliable means a car that doesn't strand you, need a tow, etc. All my 5ers have been very reliable. Have they been problem-free? Not really but these days, it's hard to find a car that's problem-free -- especially with a car as advanced as these cars are...

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Originally Posted by Rudy
I define the term "reliable" differently than the term "problem-free".

To me, reliable means a car that doesn't strand you, need a tow, etc. All my 5ers have been very reliable. Have they been problem-free? Not really but these days, it's hard to find a car that is problem-free -- especially with a car as advanced as these cars are...
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It's amazing what that pesky word "not" can do to the meaning of a sentence...

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Originally Posted by HDEddie1
Have you bought your care yet?
If so, wondering which way you went.

If not, I'd like to comment on your question.
I've had several BMW's (since 1994) and currently have still have two (a 2008 528i and a 2012 550i). I just sold a 2008 Lexus GS which I had new for 5 years.
Yes, BMW NEVER impressed me from a reliability standpoint when compared to Toyotas, Nissan, Honda. But, I make that statement relative to other things.
Depending on what you're looking for in a car, my comment can change considerably. If you're looking for a dependable daily driver, little engine and drivetrain drama, and keep your cars for more than 50K, stick with the Japanese brands Toyota Avalon, Lexus GS, Honda (Acura RS). As Consumer reports show, higher reliability ratings short and long term. What Consumer reports don't reflect are enthusiast ratings (which is why you might be reading this forum or Car and Driver/Automobile magazine instead). The BMW just sound and handle differently (when pushed hard) than their Japanese counterparts. The newer F10 is quite different from the previous generations (e60 and e39) and is very much mirroring their luxury 7 Series. This may be good or bad, depending on your taste (I'm getting older now and that's what I'm liking).
So yes, the Lexus and Nissans I've owned in the past were very carefree. You had to pay for more frequent maintenance though (were as BMW maintenance is free up to 50K). For everyday driving, grocery getter, work commute, they were quite uneventful.
I wouldn't be too concerned about the mid cycle refresh since BMW typically runs a model 6-7 years and mid cycle refresh have always been very modest. Reports have shown that the F10 has been doing better than BMW expected so radical changes are not expected (except for the slow selling GT model being dropped).
The BMW is also uneventful for the first 60K or so. My earlier BMW had problems with water pumps/hoses/radiators during the warranty period, but have not experienced that in my recent models. This forum as well as other are full of owner experience with their respective models.
Essentially, a new BMW has been relatively care free for me to about 60K... thereafter, parts seem to wear out and require replacement sooner than their Japanese counter parts.
What can't be explained is the driving. Drive them back to back and at their limits (safely of course). If you don't feel/hear the difference, the choice becomes easy.
I don't autocross, race, or drift. I test drove the new Lexus, GS Audi A6, Audi S4, Mercedes C63, but against all logic ended up with a new BMW F10.
....your milage may vary.
Good luck
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I have a 2011 F10 (528i) and the car has 38K miles. Not a single issue to report, the car has been problem free after 2 years. The one exception of some squeaky brake sounds when the car is cold. Dealer says its due to the composite material design... its not a huge issue for me.

The 2013 Consumer Reports issue just came out on newstands, and both the 528i and 535 are now recommended models. Seems that BMW fixed the fuel pump issue in the older 535i twin turbo models, finally.
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The LCI on the E60 550i M-Sport makes the car look totally different and is the reason why i bought the car. The body styling caught my eye. The non msport 550 looks the same as the 535 and 528.
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Originally Posted by KLR4LIFE
The LCI on the E60 550i M-Sport makes the car look totally different and is the reason why i bought the car. The body styling caught my eye. The non msport 550 looks the same as the 535 and 528.
Totally agree on the E60 LCI...the lighting changes and M-Sport really made the car. I can't wait to see what will change on the F10 LCI, although the current M-Sport fixings will be hard to improve upon...
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Originally Posted by Jim165
Totally agree on the E60 LCI...the lighting changes and M-Sport really made the car. I can't wait to see what will change on the F10 LCI, although the current M-Sport fixings will be hard to improve upon...
true, especially with the m performance accessories...


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