BMW, please :hug:
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I'm betting the next-gen A6 gets a diesel before the 5 series...if it gets one at all.
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I'm sure that the 535dA will come on the US markets.
But the car don't exist yet even in the EU. |
I've holding onto my 545i until the 535d (Cough cough. Maybe 540d :P) is available in the US :D
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Originally Posted by Ricracing
(Post 1220519)
I'm sure that the 535dA will come on the US markets.
But the car don't exist yet even in the EU. Base price (no options or packages) in Sweden is 499 000 SEK (equivalent to: ? 50 550 and US$65 300) |
Originally Posted by turboawd
(Post 1219994)
BMW, please :hug:
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The 535d would have made a lot of sense prior to the introduction of the twin turbo 3.0 (and 4.4) liter engines. Gas in the US simply isn't expensive enough to make a solid economic argument, BMW has effectively eliminated its marketing support and the diesel engines aren't markedly cleaner than the twin turbo gas engines. With BMW's new engine line up, the case for a 535d just isn't as strong as it was.
The curent 335d highlights some of the issues. The EPA judges the 335d to be only slighty better than the 335i in terms of its annual impact on oil resources (14.6 barrels vs 15.6 barrels), the 335d has a lower C02 output (by a margin of less than 10%) but the 335i is judged to be the cleaner car overall (the 335d obtains only LEV certification, whereas the 335i achieves ULEV certification and the 335i also scores higher than the 335d based on the stricter California emmisions standards). Simply put, take the prior model year's $4500 eco-credit off the table, and the case for the diesel here is weakened considerably. |
Also have to consider the fact that here in the US, it's very difficult to find gas stations that carry diesel, even in the big cities. I think that continuing advances in hybrid technology will make the case for diesel more and more irrelevant in the US.
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Originally Posted by Petes550i
(Post 1221861)
Also have to consider the fact that here in the US, it's very difficult to find gas stations that carry diesel, even in the big cities. I think that continuing advances in hybrid technology will make the case for diesel more and more irrelevant in the US.
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Sales of the 335d and X5 35d haven't exactly sent the message that BMW should offer more diesels.
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Originally Posted by Scandic24
(Post 1221703)
But it can be ordered :rolleyes:
Base price (no options or packages) in Sweden is 499 000 SEK (equivalent to: ? 50 550 and US$65 300) |
Originally Posted by Ricracing
(Post 1221878)
A bit cheaper than my 520dA in Finland :thumbsdown:
535d 220 kW (300 hp) CO2's 162 g/km (4g/km less than the 530d) EU5 Price ? 56.400,? including 19 % German VAT. But the most interesting info would be the torgue, some 600 Nm, I guess. |
BMW already confirmed the 535d for the US market back in May 12 of this year. Its all over google search. As far as the release date, we don;t know exactly but sometime next spring 2011.
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Originally Posted by baloo588
(Post 1224034)
BMW already confirmed the 535d for the US market back in May 12 of this year. Its all over google search. As far as the release date, we don;t know exactly but sometime next spring 2011.
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Originally Posted by swajames
(Post 1224051)
BMW has yet to confirm which specific diesel model it plans to bring to the US. The perceived wisdom is that the 530d may well be the car that would launch here, but BMW has never given any official confirmation either way. One has to wonder whether BMW will actually follow through on the US launch of a 5 Series diesel - probably for many of the reasons in my post above. Either way, there's nothing official from BMW on the specifics.
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
(Post 1224062)
If they bring any diesel, I'd expect it to be the 535 to minimize parts inventories. They already offer this engine in the 3 and X5.
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Originally Posted by swajames
(Post 1224069)
Right, that would indeed make sense, but the talk was that it would be the 530d. For the US market the twin turbo gasoline engines effectively render the 535d redundant from a performance perspective, so the additional economy offered by the 530d would be the selling point.
Dealers won't want to have to explain why the 3 is offered with a more powerful diesel. And a 330d might sell better than the 335d has, for the same reason. |
I would prefer the 535 d over the 530d. There are xdrive versions of the 535d GT in Europe so lets hope that the 535d comes here and with xdrive option. You got the best of all the worlds.
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