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Old 09-25-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Petes550i
Terrible comparison. Two totally different cars for two totally different markets. Besides a 911 can't seat 4/5 people.

There are lots of vehicles to choose from in the $70K-$100K range....it all depends on what you want/need.

You can't even get a stripped-down Panamera for even close to $70K. The cheapest Panamera starts at $74.4K.....for that you get a 300hp V6 which makes the car way too slow (0-60 in 6 sec) and very un-Porsche-like.
for 95k the last car i would buy would be 550
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Originally Posted by swajames
Says the guy driving the heaviest five series BMW has ever made...

The S is quicker than the 550, and is a much better car. And why spend 120K (actually most probably more) on a Turbo? Because a) some of us can, and b) because it's a great car.

As for bench racing cars that have yet to be released, that's a game best left for pre-pubescent adolescents.

....ahh another "weight" argument. Can't you haters come up with something new?

According to Porsche, the Panamera S does 0-60 is 5.2 sec.
According to BMW, the 550i does 0-60 in 5 sec.

Try again....so which is the faster car?

As for a "better" car, it's all a matter of opinion and just because you forked over $120K+ for a car doesn't necessarily make it better.
Old 09-25-2010, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS
no, thats kscarrol...rudy is staying in the 5 series family...


you're right, Gene, my bad.
Old 09-25-2010, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Petes550i
....ahh another "weight" argument. Can't you haters come up with something new?

According to Porsche, the Panamera S does 0-60 is 5.2 sec.
According to BMW, the 550i does 0-60 in 5 sec.

Try again....so which is the faster car?

As for a "better" car, it's all a matter of opinion and just because you forked over $120K+ for a car doesn't necessarily make it better.
Not quite, my statistically challenged friend.

According to Porsche, the Panamera 4S does it in 4.8... And Porsche always, always, sandbags on its times. Car and Driver tested the Panamera S at 4.6 and the Panamera Turbo at 3.3. That's not far off the 2.9 second time from the current 997 Turbo.

And yes, weight is important. The 550's shameful weight increase is perhaps the best evidence that BMW took its eye off the ball with the F10.
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS
no, thats kscarrol...rudy is staying in the 5 series family...
That's me! Rudy's 550 should be finished anytime now, if not already. Looking forward to his write-up!
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Originally Posted by swajames
Not quite, my statistically challenged friend.

According to Porsche, the Panamera 4S does it in 4.8... And Porsche always, always, sandbags on its times.
Uh, it seems you are the one who is mentally challenged my friend,
We were talking about the S model and now you want to say you were talking about the 4S all along?.....

In any case, BMW's numbers are also usually very conservative.

Road & Track recently clocked a 2011 750i 0-60 at 4.9 sec.
It's easy to assume then that the smaller 550i will be at LEAST as quick as that....I figure 4.7-4.8 sec. EASY.
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Originally Posted by Petes550i
Uh, it seems you are the one who is mentally challenged my friend,
We were talking about the S model and now you want to say you were talking about the 4S all along?.....

In any case, BMW's numbers are also usually very conservative.

Road & Track recently clocked a 2011 750i 0-60 at 4.9 sec.
It's easy to assume then that the smaller 550i will be at LEAST as quick as that....I figure 4.7-4.8 sec. EASY.
Still slower than Car and Driver's 4.6 for the Panamera S...
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Originally Posted by swajames
Still slower than Car and Driver's 4.6 for the Panamera S...

The 550i has not been officially clocked yet. (It can still equal or beat the 4S who knows?)
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Originally Posted by Petes550i
you're right, Gene, my bad.
no worries, I think there are a few members going the M3 route tho
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS
no worries, I think there are a few members going the M3 route tho
I'm in the m3 camp


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