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Old 04-13-2006, 02:26 PM
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So after all the positive input I've had my arm's been twisted (It didn't take too much persuassion) and added Advanced Air Con, HUD and Automatic Tailgate lift to my order.

The ride I've ordered for late May / early June delivery is now: 523i Touring with M Sport package, Petrol engine, manual gear box (I want to drive it!!). Colour Mystic Blue with Biege Dakota Leather and Light Poplar Wood trim.
Options to also include Media Package (Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth prep 6 CD-changer ect.) Visibilty Package (Xenon with Adaptive Headlights and headlight washers) Heated Front Seats, Sun Protection Glass (tinted windows). Advanced Air Con; HUD, and Automatic Tailgate Lift.

WOW! I'm goin' to have fun!!
Old 04-14-2006, 02:01 PM
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Sometimes I don't get you Euro/UK guys. You have paid for nearly every option under the sun but still gone for the baby engine. How come? The 530i gets you way more power on the same fuel economy.
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I believe it has something to do with their crazy insurance rates, and it might be linked to the engine's CC. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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In some countrys the tax is also connected to cc. I can also imagine that the gas price is hard to deal with for some of us. For me the gas price was the key to get a diesel this time.
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Originally Posted by Allymunro' post='268762' date='Apr 13 2006, 11:26 PM
So after all the positive input I've had my arm's been twisted (It didn't take too much persuassion) and added Advanced Air Con, HUD and Automatic Tailgate lift to my order.

The ride I've ordered for late May / early June delivery is now: 523i Touring with M Sport package, Petrol engine, manual gear box (I want to drive it!!). Colour Mystic Blue with Biege Dakota Leather and Light Poplar Wood trim.
Options to also include Media Package (Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth prep 6 CD-changer ect.) Visibilty Package (Xenon with Adaptive Headlights and headlight washers) Heated Front Seats, Sun Protection Glass (tinted windows). Advanced Air Con; HUD, and Automatic Tailgate Lift.

WOW! I'm goin' to have fun!!
The 523 is a 2.5L, 177BHp engine and is fast enough given all the speed cameras around in the UK. I felt I'd rather spend the extra ?/? on some nice toys instead.
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Originally Posted by maninblack' post='269230' date='Apr 14 2006, 11:01 PM
Sometimes I don't get you Euro/UK guys. You have paid for nearly every option under the sun but still gone for the baby engine. How come? The 530i gets you way more power on the same fuel economy.
The 523 is a 2.5L, 177BHp engine and is fast enough given all the speed cameras around in the UK. I felt I'd rather spend the extra ?/? on some nice toys instead.
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Its all about the cost of running the vehicle.

Big engine = big cost - think about:

Fuel cost = US$ 5+ per gallon

Add tax payable by company car drivers for private fuel purchased at approx ?3,500 per annum.

Then calculate the difference between a 2 litre diesel with a CO2 emmission of 170 compared with a 4 litre petrol with a CO2 emmission of 235 when the cost to you in tax is calculated as:

15% of the cost of the retail cost of the car +3% for every 5gms over the 160 threshold where the car costs
say ?20,000 this runs out at

170gms of CO2 = ?20,000 x 15% = ?3,000 + 170-160=10/5=2x3%=6% = ?1,200 so total = ?4,200 pa

The bigger engined car with emmission at 235 runs out at

235gms of CO2 = ?20,000 x 15% = ?3,000 = 235-160=75/5=15x3%=45% = ?9,000 so total ?12,000 pa

Then factor in that the retail price of the car with the bigger engine is more expensive anyway and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the cost of the additional tax, plus the additional Vehicle Excise Duty, plus the routine additional cost of fuel adds up to a BIG difference in average running cost.

It's this system that encourages us in UK (can't comnment on other parts of EU) to buy a fully loaded car with a weedy little engine - The BMW 5-Series "lawn-mower" variant would sell like hot cakes to company car drivers here...!

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PS _ I should have mentioned that the CO2 escalator threshold drops by 5gms every April and so the cost to the driver increases disproportionately each year, unless they too reduce their emmissions on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by Andy E61' post='269482' date='Apr 15 2006, 11:36 AM
Its all about the cost of running the vehicle.

Big engine = big cost - think about:

Fuel cost = US$ 5+ per gallon

Add tax payable by company car drivers for private fuel purchased at approx ?3,500 per annum.

Then calculate the difference between a 2 litre diesel with a CO2 emmission of 170 compared with a 4 litre petrol with a CO2 emmission of 235 when the cost to you in tax is calculated as:

15% of the cost of the retail cost of the car +3% for every 5gms over the 160 threshold where the car costs
say ?20,000 this runs out at

170gms of CO2 = ?20,000 x 15% = ?3,000 + 170-160=10/5=2x3%=6% = ?1,200 so total = ?4,200 pa

The bigger engined car with emmission at 235 runs out at

235gms of CO2 = ?20,000 x 15% = ?3,000 = 235-160=75/5=15x3%=45% = ?9,000 so total ?12,000 pa

Then factor in that the retail price of the car with the bigger engine is more expensive anyway and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the cost of the additional tax, plus the additional Vehicle Excise Duty, plus the routine additional cost of fuel adds up to a BIG difference in average running cost.

It's this system that encourages us in UK (can't comnment on other parts of EU) to buy a fully loaded car with a weedy little engine - The BMW 5-Series "lawn-mower" variant would sell like hot cakes to company car drivers here...!

Happy Easter
Andy

PS _ I should have mentioned that the CO2 escalator threshold drops by 5gms every April and so the cost to the driver increases disproportionately each year, unless they too reduce their emmissions on a regular basis.
YIKES. No wonder all you POMS want to move to Australia (come on...admit it) Here, wanton destruction of the environment is highly economical, no emissions taxes, fuel is about 50p per litre and the government actually has lower tax rates for drivers of big 4WD tanks. Yes the mum driving the ridiculous Toyota Land cruiser around town pays less govt tax than the mum who chooses a 3 series diesel. Not only that we have the highest greenhouse emissions per capita of any country in the OECD.
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