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Old 11-20-2017, 06:10 PM   #1
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So, after a month, my E61 is still at the dealer awaiting for the parts to repair the electronics the last roof leak broke. Dealer will replace those under the new deal and will relocate them to the driver side. However, this will not fix the issue in the long run. They had worked on this 5 months ago, they had blown the drain lines and replaced the ride height module. I park the car outdoors, my parking spot has a little bit of a slope (I cannot get a different spot), so I know the water is going to keep getting in under heavy and long lasting rains! I have looked at some drain valves (from Porsche) to install in the wheel well, but the fact is that water will continue to get it. This makes me upset and sad at the same time. So, I think it is time to start considering another vehicle, perhaps to take the plunge Apirl/May next year.

Given the little slope, will another BMW experience the same issue? X3, X5 or 3 Series wagon?

I don't usually like SUVs, however, there are two that I would compromise for. I am considering these 2014 models: the X5 diesel because of the efficiency, the 3 series wagon, the Audi Allroad, the V60 R-design (2015), the Lincoln MKC with the 2.3L engine because I think it is a very good looking vehicle, and even the VW Alltrack (2017) because it is a good looking wagon with potential for cool mods (the only one I mod to make it look the way it needs to look (lower, wider tire and more HP)). Or just wait to drive the new Buick TourX. I money was not an issue I would get the V90 hand down...but that's not gonna happen so don't suggest it.

I don't really care about racing or achieving 400 HP, but I do want to squeeze a little more performance from a stock vehicle for straight line acceleration, cornering is not a concern (V60 or MKC cannot compete with BMW on that part).

What do you guys think? Opinions?
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Newer F31 328i wagon with CPO warranty (not the new 330).

While it is a four-banger, a low mileage nicely-optioned car would be a good candidate for a number of performance updates. You could even go TD and hope that BMW doesn't get caught lying about emissions too.
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The problem I see with the F31 is cargo space, it seems (in paper) much smaller than the E61. I guess i'll have to bring a couple of items I usually put in the back (dog's bed and ice chest) and see how, and if, they fit in every car to make my decision.

I do like the idea of the F31 diesel, I think that would be a perfect combination, tune it to get a little more HP and get great mileage.

Buick just put the TourX in their site, I'm gonna have to go drive that as well, fully loaded for just above $40k seems reasonable...depending of how it drives.
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If you want to remain in the German vein, may I suggest going to look at the '18 VW Sportwagon, NOT the AllTrack.

I am likely going to order one next week for my wife. Top of the line trim level, light package, 6MT and 4 Motion. Asking around $ 33,000.00 CDN.

As it comes with the 1.8 Turbo engine, I'll be looking into giving it just a little more "boost"
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Buick just put the TourX in their site, I'm gonna have to go drive that as well, fully loaded for just above $40k seems reasonable...depending of how it drives.
In one word (probably): boaty. I haven't driven it though. Maybe GM brought in some design from the CTS-V and they'll surprise us.

Seems that some big wagons may be back for a limited engagement, like the very expensive Volvo V90. Pobst seems to like the Cross Country version in this
(Remember when MT actually reviewed cars and told it like it was! Still a fan of Pobst, however).

MotoMan's take on the R Design V90 is served up with more directness. Nice-looking car (I am partial to that hue of blue these days since picking up a Monte Carlo Blue M5).

That VW that Wagon Master mentions may be fun. Maybe VW didn't lie about the emissions.

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If you want to remain in the German vein, may I suggest going to look at the '18 VW Sportwagon, NOT the AllTrack.

I am likely going to order one next week for my wife. Top of the line trim level, light package, 6MT and 4 Motion. Asking around $ 33,000.00 CDN.

As it comes with the 1.8 Turbo engine, I'll be looking into giving it just a little more "boost"
You are right about the VW Sportwagen, it is good looking, it would be at the top of my choices if it wasn't that for the US they're only offering the entry level with 4Motion!!! That sucks! You're probably outside the US, thus you do get the SEL trim with 4Motion. The two things I don't like the Alltrack are what make them an Alltrack, the extra height and the plastic cladding all around.
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In one word (probably): boaty. I haven't driven it though. Maybe GM brought in some design from the CTS-V and they'll surprise us.

Seems that some big wagons may be back for a limited engagement, like the very expensive Volvo V90.

That VW that Wagon Master mentions may be fun. Maybe VW didn't lie about the emissions.
I think so as well, hopefully not too boaty.

Should I forget about AWD and just use a good set of winter tires for the VW Sportwagen SEL? I like the comfort of being about to take some snowy roads when we go skiing. During the Solar Eclipse, having AWD came handy when I took some off road detours running away from the huge traffic jams on my way back. I'd be giving that up with FWD.
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Should I forget about AWD and just use a good set of winter tires for the VW Sportwagen SEL?
Properly equipped and properly driven, you can get through quite a bit of weather with a FWD car. One of my commuter cars for three seasons to the local ski hill was a stock Honda Civic with M&S tires and manual transmission (I don't like FWD auto trans cars). Never once got stuck or slid off the road or hit anything or anyone and only put on chains when required. Also had an old VW bus with studded snow tires for heavy snow conditions. That thing killed it in the snow! Kinda cold though, until we installed an Eberspächer!

Buy the new Volvo V90. Big, decent handling, and I think those Swedes may have heard of bad weather.

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Unfortunately the V90 is out of my allowed budget...wife controls that, LOL!!

One thing I am considering is getting a car cover for when it will rain (as suggested by someone in Bimmerfest) and keeping the car for 2 more years. By then a CPO V90 will be within budget...but the itch of replacing it early 2018 is very tempting, that's why I wanted to hear people's comments on the choices I came up with.
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Perhaps wifey needs to be demoted to mistress and given her own budget.

You have three choices for big(er) Europeon wagons... Jaguar, Mercedes, and Volvo. None cheap. May as well go all out and get that AMG 63 S... what the hell.
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