E61 and Doppelspeiche 172
09-11-2009 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by push_eax@hotmail.com' post='1004708' date='Sep 11 2009, 11:06 AM
I've been thinking more and more lately that the 8,5J 172s, both front and rear, is the right way to go.
This said, I still have one issue which I'd appreciate your input on: tires for this will most likely be 245/35 ((Z)R19s). The majority of tires, if not all, with a 35 profile, to my knowledge, have a load rating of 93 (650kg). The currently, larger, mounted 9,5J, with 275/30 tires mounted, have a load rating of 96 (710kg). Though this is not much of a difference, it does provide some good overhead if I wish to load the vehicle in the rear and still press down on the pedal.
In all cases, I think I'll go for the Conti SportContact 2 or 3. In the first case, I get to simply change the rear rims and mount the tires, as the front tires have SportContact 2 tires mounted. In the second, I might have to go for a full set of tires all around. Don't know... I have an appointment with the service lads on Saturday, so I'll get their feedback tomorrow.
Has anybody tried mounting 245/35 winter tires? If so, what are your experiences? My car came with a set of what looked like 124 rims, with winter tires mounted. It turns out that they are Alutec rims. As a consequence, I plan on getting rid of them. On the other, however, I'll need a plan for winter tires (either with the 172 8,5J rims all around, or with, maybe, a new set of Doppelspeiche 135s).
Anybody interested in a set of 2 Doppelspeiche 172 9,5Js? :-)
This said, I still have one issue which I'd appreciate your input on: tires for this will most likely be 245/35 ((Z)R19s). The majority of tires, if not all, with a 35 profile, to my knowledge, have a load rating of 93 (650kg). The currently, larger, mounted 9,5J, with 275/30 tires mounted, have a load rating of 96 (710kg). Though this is not much of a difference, it does provide some good overhead if I wish to load the vehicle in the rear and still press down on the pedal.
In all cases, I think I'll go for the Conti SportContact 2 or 3. In the first case, I get to simply change the rear rims and mount the tires, as the front tires have SportContact 2 tires mounted. In the second, I might have to go for a full set of tires all around. Don't know... I have an appointment with the service lads on Saturday, so I'll get their feedback tomorrow.
Has anybody tried mounting 245/35 winter tires? If so, what are your experiences? My car came with a set of what looked like 124 rims, with winter tires mounted. It turns out that they are Alutec rims. As a consequence, I plan on getting rid of them. On the other, however, I'll need a plan for winter tires (either with the 172 8,5J rims all around, or with, maybe, a new set of Doppelspeiche 135s).
Anybody interested in a set of 2 Doppelspeiche 172 9,5Js? :-)
09-11-2009 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='1004714' date='Sep 11 2009, 11:42 AM
There was an Austrian guy on the forum who installed the 19" winter tyres but IMO the 18" are more than enough actually 17" as a bit narrower would be even better. I have the 245/35 18 with OEM 135 rims and I am pretty happy. I am driving quite a lot in Eastern Europe and going to the mountain skiing during winter. Never had a slight problem.
I had 19" winter tires on my e61 - www.syed.at/e61
no probs whatsoever, it was fantastic.
regarding the weight index: check out what your car can take as a load. i think it is something like 1250 kg on the rear wheel. from that point of view, 93 is more than enough - because that equates to 1300kg, ie more than what your rear axle can take...
09-12-2009 | 02:08 PM
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The BMW dealer said that 8,5J 172s are an endorsed option by BMW for the E61. The tires related to this choice, ie 93 load rating tires (650kg), are also endorsed, beyond the fact that there is no real other choice. The max load weight of the rear axle of my 535d touring is 1300 (w/o trailer)... the max rating of both 93 rated tires. This is ok by BMW.
I opted for these today with the dealer and will be a happy driver with 8,5Js by next week. They offered Conti SP2s. Upon my request, they also offered Conti SP3s. FYI, the SP2s were priced @ 250Euro, whereas the SP3s were priced at 245Euro. No too excessive, as the least I could find both were maximum 10Euro less.
Thanks for all your input on this again.
Now, to my last question for this post...
Do you guys know who manufactures the 124 rims for BMW? I received a pair of what seem to look exactly like 124 rims with winter tires. The only problem is that the manufacturer (inner part of the rim is labelled as Alutec). Further, these rims are 8Jx17 rims; unlike those advertised by BMW, which are 18 inch rims. Could these be the real thing, or just replicas?
Thx again,
Cheers
The BMW dealer said that 8,5J 172s are an endorsed option by BMW for the E61. The tires related to this choice, ie 93 load rating tires (650kg), are also endorsed, beyond the fact that there is no real other choice. The max load weight of the rear axle of my 535d touring is 1300 (w/o trailer)... the max rating of both 93 rated tires. This is ok by BMW.
I opted for these today with the dealer and will be a happy driver with 8,5Js by next week. They offered Conti SP2s. Upon my request, they also offered Conti SP3s. FYI, the SP2s were priced @ 250Euro, whereas the SP3s were priced at 245Euro. No too excessive, as the least I could find both were maximum 10Euro less.
Thanks for all your input on this again.
Now, to my last question for this post...
Do you guys know who manufactures the 124 rims for BMW? I received a pair of what seem to look exactly like 124 rims with winter tires. The only problem is that the manufacturer (inner part of the rim is labelled as Alutec). Further, these rims are 8Jx17 rims; unlike those advertised by BMW, which are 18 inch rims. Could these be the real thing, or just replicas?
Thx again,
Cheers
09-13-2009 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by push_eax@hotmail.com' post='1005749' date='Sep 12 2009, 11:08 PM
Now, to my last question for this post...
Do you guys know who manufactures the 124 rims for BMW? I received a pair of what seem to look exactly like 124 rims with winter tires. The only problem is that the manufacturer (inner part of the rim is labelled as Alutec). Further, these rims are 8Jx17 rims; unlike those advertised by BMW, which are 18 inch rims. Could these be the real thing, or just replicas?
Do you guys know who manufactures the 124 rims for BMW? I received a pair of what seem to look exactly like 124 rims with winter tires. The only problem is that the manufacturer (inner part of the rim is labelled as Alutec). Further, these rims are 8Jx17 rims; unlike those advertised by BMW, which are 18 inch rims. Could these be the real thing, or just replicas?
09-13-2009 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rsyed' post='1006040' date='Sep 13 2009, 09:55 AM
they are not OEM - 124s only exist in 8jx18 or 9jx18 - nothing in 17"...
09-13-2009 | 02:15 AM
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It seems fitting to announce in this thread about wheels and tires that I... have a flat tire, and the E61 is parked in the garage.
No jack, no spare and no clue what to do next.
Time to finally make use of the BMW Mobility Kit and a taxi!
No jack, no spare and no clue what to do next.
Time to finally make use of the BMW Mobility Kit and a taxi!
09-13-2009 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='1006052' date='Sep 13 2009, 10:15 AM
It seems fitting to announce in this thread about wheels and tires that I... have a flat tire, and the E61 is parked in the garage.
No jack, no spare and no clue what to do next.
Time to finally make use of the BMW Mobility Kit and a taxi!
No jack, no spare and no clue what to do next.
Time to finally make use of the BMW Mobility Kit and a taxi!
let us know how you get on with the BMW Mobility Kit... good luck
09-13-2009 | 02:51 PM
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I forgot to say in my last post on this subject, that the 9,5J 172s mounted in the rear of my touring were, and still are, w/o spacers. As the dealer took the wheels off to replace my rear brake pads and disks this past Saturday, I saw that the tires had made contact on the inner side of the well well.
You can spot the signs of this evil in the pics. Unfortunately, they are low quality, as I only had my cell phone with me at the time.
Good thing that my new 8,5Js are on the way this coming Saturday. I'll take some higher res pics and post 'em then.
You can spot the signs of this evil in the pics. Unfortunately, they are low quality, as I only had my cell phone with me at the time.
Good thing that my new 8,5Js are on the way this coming Saturday. I'll take some higher res pics and post 'em then.
09-14-2009 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='1004714' date='Sep 11 2009, 11:42 AM
There was an Austrian guy on the forum who installed the 19" winter tyres but IMO the 18" are more than enough actually 17" as a bit narrower would be even better. I have the 245/35 18 with OEM 135 rims and I am pretty happy.
09-10-2010 | 04:18 AM
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Another question along the infmaous E61/172 line:
Does anyone know why the 4 * 8.5J set is certified for the LCI E61 but not for the pre-LCI?
Many thanks in advance
Does anyone know why the 4 * 8.5J set is certified for the LCI E61 but not for the pre-LCI?
Many thanks in advance