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decision between an 07 or an 08 wagon

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Old 05-08-2010, 10:52 AM
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Hi All

First post here. After quite a few months of looking for a wagon I've actually found a couple of good cars but here is my dilemma. One is a CPO 07 with 30000miles for about $32,500. Options include heated seats (no CWP), premium, sport package, PDC and NAV or an 08 ( early built mind you) with 36000mile, similar asking price as the 07 CWP and premium package, NAV and HUD.
Both are black with a light interior.

I?ve spoken to the dealer where the 08 was serviced and early on there was a problem with the injectors but there has not been anything major for the past couple of years.

Tough choice

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You don't specify which models or country. But in Canada the '07 would be a 530xiT and the '08 would be a 535xiT given the choice between the 2 I would opt for the '08 for the more powerful engine and you would get the revised interior/exterior design (also known as LCI). You get the nicer headlight/tailight design, the interior would get the newer style door panels (much nicer imo). These are the first things that come to mind I hope this helps a little.
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You don't specify which models or country. But in Canada the '07 would be a 530xiT and the '08 would be a 535xiT given the choice between the 2 I would opt for the '08 for the more powerful engine and you would get the revised interior/exterior design (also known as LCI). You get the nicer headlight/tailight design, the interior would get the newer style door panels (much nicer imo). These are the first things that come to mind I hope this helps a little.

Thanks for the feedback, it does help.
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Originally Posted by 20fleming
Thanks for the feedback, it does help.
I tend to agree with the "newer is better" philosophy, especially as there was the LCI facelift from '07 to '08. Another advantage to an '08 is that if you can get a September 2007 or later build date, you should get the new iDrive controller and presumably an iDrive software upgrade. Once you drive with a HUD, you will wonder how you ever got along without one

Happy hunting!
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08 lci hpfp issues
08 new door interior, poor rating in side crash tests

rear crash tests, only comfort seats do ok in 07

08 way more torque
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Check the 08 for HPFP issues, Injector issues and Waste Gate rattle/replacement.

check both for bad sunroof seals /damage/corrosion on the electronics in the rear.

Huge power differance in the 08 vs the 07... 08 low end power vs 07 upper end power
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My vote would be the '07, and not just because I have one of those. The '08 introduces some nice upgrades, but also adds some significant downsides, in particular the risks of ongoing fuel system and turbo issues. The '07 is definitely not underpowered for any day-to day driving, and only you can tell if you will really be able to make use of the added torque of the '08 on any regular basis. In my case, I almost never have the chance to push into the upper power bands, so the '07's 255 horses are very satisfactory and I really like the idea of having a "bulletproof" version (tongue in cheek, but the non-turbo's have a very good track record). A really big distinction for me would be the sport package, or more narrowly, the great sport seats of the 5 series. Some don't like them, or don't fit, but for me, I would not readily buy a BMW without this option.

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Originally Posted by mbsl98
My vote would be the '07, and not just because I have one of those. The '08 introduces some nice upgrades, but also adds some significant downsides, in particular the risks of ongoing fuel system and turbo issues. The '07 is definitely not underpowered for any day-to day driving, and only you can tell if you will really be able to make use of the added torque of the '08 on any regular basis. In my case, I almost never have the chance to push into the upper power bands, so the '07's 255 horses are very satisfactory and I really like the idea of having a "bulletproof" version (tongue in cheek, but the non-turbo's have a very good track record). A really big distinction for me would be the sport package, or more narrowly, the great sport seats of the 5 series. Some don't like them, or don't fit, but for me, I would not readily buy a BMW without this option.

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With the 08 you can upgrade the transmission to sports automatic which gives faster shifts, holds the gear longer and gives the steering a more weighted feel; an excellent upgrade which isn't possible with the older, slower transmission. For me it was a compromise to get an automatic over a manual transmission in the first place but I have not regretted the choice with the fast, excellent shifts I get with my '08 sports automatic transmission.
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I've had both, and the peace of mind of your engine working when you push start every morning was a much bigger deal. Also Powerbox/Sprintbooster2 can speed things up too.
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I am a little confused about what you are comparing here, is it a pre-LCI 530XiT and an LCI 535XiT ?

I have owned pre-LCI and LCI E60/E61s. If you are going to have an automatic gearbox, then the choice between the two has to be the LCI without a doubt. Even with a remap and a Sprintbooster, my pre-LCI 530dA did not run as nicely as my LCI 525dA -- it had more power, but the auto was terrible in comparison. With my current pre-LCI petrol V8, I have to admit the pre-LCI auto isn't as bad, but still nowhere near as good as the LCI auto. As NavarroOne mentioned, the LCI auto can be easily upgraded to the Sports Automatic if it is not supplied with it from the factory.

As for the injector issues, if that was an early issue with the early 535i TT engine, then I assume they have resolved that by now, like you imply in your original post.

So if I have understood it correctly, my advice is definitely go for the 2008, providing it is the LCI version.

Good luck and happy shopping...


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