Can a diversity antenna be repaired/reconditioned?
I am almost 100% certain my diversity antenna is kapoot. I have no more AM band, my FM band has poor reception and my WB is gone as well. The FOB key still work.
Question, can a diversity antenna module be salvaged/repaired/reconditioned or is it a straight out replacement? Thanks. |
replace it, you will be pleased you did it. Depending on the age of your car that part has received so many updates.
|
My diversity antenna was faulty. After looking at the curcuit board with a magnifying glass I could see there was corrosion on there. I cleaned off the corrosion and shone a torch behind the curcuit board and looked from the top and I could see some of the copper traces had corroded away. There are a few tips on how to fix them on YouTube.
I fixed mine, although very fiddley. You could probably get it done professionally and save yourself a few quid. |
Thanks for the comments and tips. Now that the weather has dried up a bit, I have the AM and WB band again. My FM reception is also better. I may wait a bit before taking action to replace it while monitoring it.
|
Make sure at least the foam spacers are installed outside the module. Look up the bulletin if you don't know what I'm talking about. It's supposed to keep more water out of the module, though my experience is that it still gets in even with them!
If you're going thru the trouble of opening up the case of the module, then try to silicone the edges to minimize further water ingress would be my tip to you. |
Originally Posted by Lotus99
(Post 1495039)
Make sure at least the foam spacers are installed outside the module. Look up the bulletin if you don't know what I'm talking about. It's supposed to keep more water out of the module, though my experience is that it still gets in even with them!
If you're going thru the trouble of opening up the case of the module, then try to silicone the edges to minimize further water ingress would be my tip to you. |
Mine (module) died about a year after it was replaced, and when I opened it up, found the spacers were there, and they had even put some silicone around the edges of the plastic case, but it was still wet inside... :( So that's why I'm not so sure they do much other than possibly delay the inevitable. Crossing my fingers the last replacement of a month ago will last longer, as I'll be out of warranty then.
|
Originally Posted by Lotus99
(Post 1495128)
Mine (module) died about a year after it was replaced, and when I opened it up, found the spacers were there, and they had even put some silicone around the edges of the plastic case, but it was still wet inside... :( So that's why I'm not so sure they do much other than possibly delay the inevitable. Crossing my fingers the last replacement of a month ago will last longer, as I'll be out of warranty then.
|
1 Attachment(s)
Hmmm... I was debating whether to buy an extended warranty or not. If it doesn't cover that, then what the heck is it good for? That's odd. I was worried there would be all kinds of exceptions to what's covered.
I heard most people get Coverage One thru the dealers, as an extended warranty. https://www.coverageone.ca/mic/uwc/j...s_ultimate.jsp So I'm thinking maybe I'm better off just putting aside my money instead of buying the extended warranty. And this is what the US people get I think: |
US buyers have better coverage than we have. I will try one more dealership (via a contact) to see if I can get it replaced under CPO. The fact that it is working again makes me believe that it can be fixed instead of an outright replacement.
|
Remote control for central locking
Does this diversity antenna also have to do with the buttons in the key for central locking? Mine has stopped working, only works some time. I have to put the key in the door, then the central lock works. Its the same with the other key!
|
Has anyone had success cleaning corrosion off of this module? Any tips?
|
Originally Posted by losblancos
(Post 1540566)
Has anyone had success cleaning corrosion off of this module? Any tips?
So, the answer to this question and OP's question is "yes, perhaps..." See this post https://5series.net/forums/e60-discu...6/#post1540577 |
Originally Posted by losblancos
(Post 1540577)
FIXED!!!
My theory is that the ignition slot itself only charges and authenticates the key; Can't believe it was that simple! Now to figure out the best way to make sure this doesn't happen again. Thinking some combination of foam inserts/duct tape/plumbing tape? Make sure to search and look for the tech bulletin on the foam spacers that were added by BMW later on as an update to reduce the chance of water getting in the module, and if you don't have them, get them. Not sure if they're much good though, as mine went bad, even though the foam spacers were there. But it's a cheap added insurance. And silicone the edges of the module case, before closing it. |
Originally Posted by Lotus99
(Post 1540641)
Good for you! Your theory is not correct for Comfort Access keys though. They have a removable battery inside so don't get charged, unlike non CA keys. Just take out your physical key, and flip off the battery lid to see it. It's the first thing to check in future if your CA is weak.
Make sure to search and look for the tech bulletin on the foam spacers that were added by BMW later on as an update to reduce the chance of water getting in the module, and if you don't have them, get them. Not sure if they're much good though, as mine went bad, even though the foam spacers were there. But it's a cheap added insurance. And silicone the edges of the module case, before closing it. Yeah, I saw that bulletin on the foam spacers in your thread, and I also saw that they don't seem to be all that helpful. I was thinking duct tape/plumbing tape originally, but I assume you're referring to silicon glue or sealant? That seems like it might be worthwhile. I'd be tempted to try sealing the entire black 'box' that surrounds the module. |
Sorry, I misunderstood you also. I thought you had CA keys and were saying they get charged in the slot.
I've had my antenna replaced twice actually. Once in early 2012, and then just a year after! :o After the first replacement, when it went kaput, is when I opened it up and noticed that the edges of the box with the board inside had even been siliconed the first time, but didn't seem to have helped, and I had foam spacers too.
Originally Posted by Lotus99
(Post 1489768)
The foam is there to press down the lid of the black plastic container, inside which is the module. The 5 pieces are strategically placed in theory to push down the edges. Not sure if it needs more foam, but I guess it wouldn't hurt.
When I opened up the black plastic box, there WAS silicone all around the edges, which means that even with that, it still is susceptible... :-( They said they sealed it up real good this time. So I'm crossing my fingers. Was toying with putting the module inside in a ziploc bag too myself! But if moisture gets in, it might be worse, in that it might take longer to dry I figured... . . |
1 Attachment(s)
Originally Posted by losblancos
(Post 1540726)
I was thinking duct tape/plumbing tape originally, but I assume you're referring to silicon glue or sealant? That seems like it might be worthwhile. I'd be tempted to try sealing the entire black 'box' that surrounds the module.
Basically even after I cleaned the corrosion off of the diversity module, it kept failing to remote unlock and otherwise sync with the keys, particularly after wet weather. Interestingly enough, all that was typically required to get it working again was unplugging it and plugging it back in. So yesterday I cleaned it again and even took some isopropyl to the connector itself. Then we cleaned and vacuumed a lot of the dust that gets under the spoiler. The idea was to create a relatively clean area for sealing. I was debating between silicon sealant and waterproofing tape; ended up using the latter in part because silicon can take a while to cure completely. The problem that I was worried about, though, was what would happen if the seal from the outside was imperfect (I think it's almost impossible to create an airtight seal around the black 'box' because of the way the wires go in) and some water still got in. Stood to reason that it might take that much longer to dry out. So to that end, here's what we did... -Cleaned the module circuit board itself with 91% isopropyl and a toothbrush -Cleaned the connector on the car with isopropyl/toothbrush -Put the module back in, and before putting the black lid back on dumped a decent quantity of silica gel (a dessicant) into the area surrounding the module. We used something like this cat litter, easily found in a local grocery -Sealed the lid with this waterproofing tape, which can be found e.g., at wal-mart I forgot to take a picture of the silica gel-filled module area, but here is the finished product: Attachment 165851 We'll see how long this works! I *think* it survived a big rain storm last night; will have to ask my wife about it. I'm somewhat resigned to the reality that I'm going to have to replace this module at some point and probably every now and then thereafter. :rolleyes: |
Well, ^that^ solution only ended up working for about a month or two. But sure enough, the instant I unplugged the module and re-plugged it, it started working again. Which puzzles me, but it may be time to mess about with re-soldering the pads/joints around the plug and adding some solder to make up for any corrosion?
|
Less than 2 years ago my remote stopped working, so I replaced the diversity antenna module (circuit board). Before I installed the new one, I applied a few thin coats of silicone conformal coating to 'waterproof' the electronics, and I also applied a silicone bead around the rubber seal of the housing. Now I think it's dead again - the remote access still works, but I have no AM or WB radio, and FM is very sporadic (constantly goes in and out of reception, and only on very strong signals - distant stations are not picked up at all). I'm not sure what else to try - the car sees less than 15,000 km/yr and is garage-kept, although we do live in a very wet climate on the west coast.
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:40 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands