BMW considering bringing 5 Series Touring back to U.S.
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I still don't understand why they'd say they wouldn't bring it over in the first place.
If it's for sale in Europe, then it's not like they have to construct a LHD version for one market. And if the saloon's already for sale in the US, then all the conversions will be done.
Admittedly if the numbers are low over there I can understand why they might not have thousands sitting around for immediate delvivery, but why you couldn't order a factory one is beyond me.
If it's for sale in Europe, then it's not like they have to construct a LHD version for one market. And if the saloon's already for sale in the US, then all the conversions will be done.
Admittedly if the numbers are low over there I can understand why they might not have thousands sitting around for immediate delvivery, but why you couldn't order a factory one is beyond me.
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I think the real problem is the quality of the US diesel fuel. I suspect BMW is worried about problems with injectors and particle filters.
Otherwise, I test-drove a F01 740d with 3.0 litre engine with 2 step-up turbines and 306 HP a few months ago and I have to say this car was incredible. The poise, power and linear delivery of the engine was unbelievable (compared to my 3.0 diesel with 1 turbine).
And as the official fuel consumption was around 6.0 litre / 100 km, I believe a real-world consumption of 7.5-8.0 litres out of town is absolutely realistic. And this is a 2.0 tonne luxury limo with sporty abilities! I was really impressed.
Otherwise, I test-drove a F01 740d with 3.0 litre engine with 2 step-up turbines and 306 HP a few months ago and I have to say this car was incredible. The poise, power and linear delivery of the engine was unbelievable (compared to my 3.0 diesel with 1 turbine).
And as the official fuel consumption was around 6.0 litre / 100 km, I believe a real-world consumption of 7.5-8.0 litres out of town is absolutely realistic. And this is a 2.0 tonne luxury limo with sporty abilities! I was really impressed.
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I assumed by "it" Kell was referring to the wagon in general, which is what my post was about, but I can see that as others above started discussing a diesel engine, that's what you are referring to, MMITEV.
As far as why wagons are not being brought over, my comment still stands. If and when that happens, then I suppose your reasoning as to why diesels within the lineup aren't offered could be valid...
But the price of gas is relatively so cheap here still that a major part of the lack-of-diesel-engine-choice issue is really because consumers aren't buying them. No demand, no supply.
As far as why wagons are not being brought over, my comment still stands. If and when that happens, then I suppose your reasoning as to why diesels within the lineup aren't offered could be valid...
But the price of gas is relatively so cheap here still that a major part of the lack-of-diesel-engine-choice issue is really because consumers aren't buying them. No demand, no supply.
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I assumed by "it" Kell was referring to the wagon in general, which is what my post was about, but I can see that as others above started discussing a diesel engine, that's what you are referring to, MMITEV.
As far as why wagons are not being brought over, my comment still stands. If and when that happens, then I suppose your reasoning as to why diesels within the lineup aren't offered could be valid...
But the price of gas is relatively so cheap here still that a major part of the lack-of-diesel-engine-choice issue is really because consumers aren't buying them. No demand, no supply.
As far as why wagons are not being brought over, my comment still stands. If and when that happens, then I suppose your reasoning as to why diesels within the lineup aren't offered could be valid...
But the price of gas is relatively so cheap here still that a major part of the lack-of-diesel-engine-choice issue is really because consumers aren't buying them. No demand, no supply.
Of course in typcial fashion, the gov then put the price of diesel up, so now it costs more than petrol. As the initial purchase price of a diesel is greater and the fuel costs more, it would have to be a lot more efficient these days to make it a worthwhile new purchase.
And isn't the cost of fuel in the US partly so low, because the octane rating is so low? No idea how the diesel cetane ratings compare, but I know 'regular' fuel in Europe is 95RON, and premium is about 97/98/99. How does that compare?
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And isn't the cost of fuel in the US partly so low, because the octane rating is so low? No idea how the diesel cetane ratings compare, but I know 'regular' fuel in Europe is 95RON, and premium is about 97/98/99. How does that compare?
U.S. fuel taxes are MUCH lower than in the U.K. and much of Europe.
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Jim / crewzer
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