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V70Cat 10-21-2008 08:45 AM
Originally Posted by V70Cat' post='697844' date='Oct 20 2008, 11:53 AM
The T comes with rear air suspension which adds to the cost.

I think the rear suspension makes the car drive a little firmer/tighter which is better.
What do other think/know?

westcoast550 10-21-2008 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='691132' date='Oct 12 2008, 03:18 PM
Actually it should be cheaper, less doors, less windows etc. However it is produced in smaller amount so less pieces to divide the costs and all the rest is marketing.

The interior of the 6ers is by far more luxurious and high end vs the 5s..........

Tiago 10-22-2008 06:37 AM
Originally Posted by hondik' post='685056' date='Oct 4 2008, 10:41 AM
E61 has 5% longer gears and weighs more. Rear visibility isn't as good in E61. However, you can get panoramic sunroof in E61. Other than this I'm not aware of.
You are wrong. Only in some engines the touring has shorter gears (same gearbox but different diff ratio):

E60 523i - 3.23
E61 523i - 3.39

E60 525i - 3.15
E61 525i - 3.23

E60 520d - 2.56
E61 520d - 2.64

E60 525d/530d - 2.47
E61 525d/530d - 2.56

The others has the same gearing. The touring is also 100kg heavier than the sedan. I don't find much more difficult to drive. You still can have a lot of fun in the roundabouts with the E61. :P

rsyed 10-22-2008 06:43 AM
The E61 has a different center of gravity compared to the E60 - this is something you definitely feel in the curves.. I guess it is because of the extra weight of the back of the car that you are dragging with you..

Ricracing 10-22-2008 07:55 AM
Originally Posted by V70Cat' post='697844' date='Oct 20 2008, 06:53 PM
The T comes with rear air suspension which adds to the cost.
+1

V70Cat 10-23-2008 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='699983' date='Oct 22 2008, 11:55 AM
+1
The T has a panda roof that adds to cost

Kell 10-24-2008 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by rsyed' post='699910' date='Oct 22 2008, 03:43 PM
The E61 has a different center of gravity compared to the E60 - this is something you definitely feel in the curves.. I guess it is because of the extra weight of the back of the car that you are dragging with you..
It's not necesseraliy the extra weight, but where that extra weight is. Because you have all that extra metal and glass high up it elevates the centre of gravity and therefore all estates are more succeptible to body roll.

rsyed 10-25-2008 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by Kell' post='702044' date='Oct 24 2008, 10:53 AM
It's not necesseraliy the extra weight, but where that extra weight is. Because you have all that extra metal and glass high up it elevates the centre of gravity and therefore all estates are more succeptible to body roll.
That is what i try to say with my posting but I could not get it out as nicely as you put it ;)

V70Cat 10-26-2008 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by rsyed' post='703237' date='Oct 25 2008, 01:04 PM
That is what i try to say with my posting but I could not get it out as nicely as you put it ;)
The estate is actually closer to a 50/50 weight distribution and the air bags seem to make the car feel tighter.

E60M5beast 11-11-2008 01:39 AM
hehe..after looking at the replies, i'm targetting an E61 for my nxt car..


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