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Old 11-02-2011, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bert69
realy See post #293
Many thanks BERT69. I think your procedure is very well laid out. I will pass it on and let you know my success.
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Originally Posted by hermman
Today, I encoded a car!
What we have:
Standard shifter, shift box, sport button and paddles on the steering wheel.
See below.
It was necessary to change the firmware shiftboks as he did not see sport button.
I did not feel the difference, pressed or not pressed the button sport.

The Master says to change the firmware transmission ....... But it could be dangerous .... Transmission may die ...
What are your comments?

Hallo

With this mod I do not feel difference when pressed sport button.
Also in DS mode, does not change M1-M6 in the S1-S6
In what may be a problem?

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When I retrofitted through the dealer, all of the car's modules were updated to the current versions -- so if there were any transmission "firmware" updates required they were applied. There's always a risk when programming that a module may die, but somehow it only seems to happen when your car is being programmed by the dealer

Where you are today, do your paddles work for shifting gears? If so, that's a good sign. It also looks like you get the "sport" display on the dash with the button pressed, so that's also a good sign.

I'm going to go with memory here (and confirm on the drive home tonight): For the S1-5 vs. M1-6 on the display, the S1-5 appear with the gearshift in DS mode without using the paddles (ie. still in 'auto' mode) - can't remember if sport button needs to be pressed. Once you use the paddles in DS mode, with or without the sport button pressed, it changes to M1-6.

If you're not detecting any change when pressing the sport button, something is not working -- in regular "D" mode the button should significantly change throttle response and shift points, like you put the car in DS mode plus some. You should also notice that when you are in manual mode the car rev matches on downshifts - is it doing that?

Great work on getting this to work! Not sure how many people would have the skills to do the changes to the circuit board, but if you get it to work then the marketability of my old shifter goes up considerably!
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You should get the rev matching in manual mode downshifts whether the sport button is on or not. If you don't have that you still have something to work out.



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Originally Posted by Wpg550
When I retrofitted through the dealer, all of the car's modules were updated to the current versions -- so if there were any transmission "firmware" updates required they were applied. There's always a risk when programming that a module may die, but somehow it only seems to happen when your car is being programmed by the dealer

Where you are today, do your paddles work for shifting gears? If so, that's a good sign. It also looks like you get the "sport" display on the dash with the button pressed, so that's also a good sign.

I'm going to go with memory here (and confirm on the drive home tonight): For the S1-5 vs. M1-6 on the display, the S1-5 appear with the gearshift in DS mode without using the paddles (ie. still in 'auto' mode) - can't remember if sport button needs to be pressed. Once you use the paddles in DS mode, with or without the sport button pressed, it changes to M1-6.

If you're not detecting any change when pressing the sport button, something is not working -- in regular "D" mode the button should significantly change throttle response and shift points, like you put the car in DS mode plus some. You should also notice that when you are in manual mode the car rev matches on downshifts - is it doing that?

Great work on getting this to work! Not sure how many people would have the skills to do the changes to the circuit board, but if you get it to work then the marketability of my old shifter goes up considerably!

At first when I plugged my old shiftboks, nothing worked.
Then I updated software of shiftboks, sport button is working, the kombi will show "sport".
Paddles are working.
In the DS mode, M1-M6 are not changed in S1-S6.
I just do not have a difference with the pressed and not pressed sport button ....
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Originally Posted by hermman
At first when I plugged my old shiftboks, nothing worked.
Then I updated software of shiftboks, sport button is working, the kombi will show "sport".
Paddles are working.
In the DS mode, M1-M6 are not changed in S1-S6.
I just do not have a difference with the pressed and not pressed sport button ....

Also, steering wheel does not became harder when i press the sport button.
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Originally Posted by hermman
Also, steering wheel does not became harder when i press the sport button.
Total price for the retrofit:
Sport button 62 $(New)
Console cover -35$
SAT Shifter-65$
PUM Dt3(SMD components soldering to the PCB board) - 6$
Jack for sport button - 0.2$
Changing the firmware ECU, coding of $ 205 to $ 2TB - 20$
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Originally Posted by hermman
Total price for the retrofit:
Sport button 62 $(New)
Console cover -35$
SAT Shifter-65$
PUM Dt3(SMD components soldering to the PCB board) - 6$
Jack for sport button - 0.2$
Changing the firmware ECU, coding of $ 205 to $ 2TB - 20$

Today I have installed jack for sport lever shifter.
Aftertomorrow I will send pictures of it.
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Originally Posted by hermman
Today I have installed jack for sport lever shifter.
Aftertomorrow I will send pictures of it.

Also, I cut a stick that I could install the sports shifter.
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Originally Posted by hermman
In the DS mode, M1-M6 are not changed in S1-S6.
are you sure that is possible ???

i nerver have seen a factory SAT e60 with the gearmode S1-S6


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