E60 M5 vs CLS 55 AMG at bestmotoring
03-16-2006, 12:34 PM
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also, 'delay or pause/delay' is quoted a lot when they talk about the CLS
03-16-2006, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xexyus' post='255810' date='Mar 16 2006, 08:54 PM
Didnt someone tell me that the M3 was slower than the M5 before 
around a track there is a world of a difference between an M3 Coupe and a M3 CSL.
03-16-2006, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='255788' date='Mar 16 2006, 08:37 PM
IMO, i kinda interpreted this way from what i saw, the guy in the csl didn't have too much trouble keeping pase in the turns, while the m5 wich is waaaaay heavier
m5: EU weight 1830kg
cls 55 amg: EU weight 1920kg
m5 is waaaaaaaaaay heavier
03-17-2006, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='256041' date='Mar 16 2006, 06:25 PM
another assumption. Go check the figures
m5: EU weight 1830kg
cls 55 amg: EU weight 1920kg
m5 is waaaaaaaaaay heavier
m5: EU weight 1830kg
cls 55 amg: EU weight 1920kg
m5 is waaaaaaaaaay heavier
M3 CSL: 1385kg
03-17-2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='255788' date='Mar 16 2006, 08:37 PM
IMO, i kinda interpreted this way from what i saw, the guy in the csl didn't have too much trouble keeping pase in the turns, while the m5 wich is waaaaay heavier, and a whole different set-up of a car had problems keeping in front of the csl. IMO it had only 2 options since at the end of every straight he had the lead because of the power, he had to brake as hard as he could and as late not to loose to the csl on the braking (wich on a simple comparative test the csl would win) and then try whatever it takes to hold the ideal line. IMHO the csl was way faster on the corners, where the m5 had to literally drift just not to allow the csl to get passed by him. He had to hold the csl in the back just till the exit of the corners...and after that the story kinda repeats itself. If i were on that track and had to choose wich car to drive, sorry it simply had to be the CSL. The m5 started to drift when the csl wanted to pass, because he knew that was the only way not to give up the optimum line. Do you realise how quick the csl was on those corners? And it didn't even start to loose traction... 
It still looked to me that he was playing - perhaps cause he knew he had the clear advantage on the straight bits?
The M3 CSL guy was itching to get past on the bends and as you rightly say the M5 kept getting in the way, but.......what it seemed to me was that the M5 (even badly driven) was holding off the CSL. Pretty impresive to me given the difference in size and weight.
03-17-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='256041' date='Mar 17 2006, 02:25 AM
another assumption. Go check the figures
m5: EU weight 1830kg
cls 55 amg: EU weight 1920kg
m5 is waaaaaaaaaay heavier
m5: EU weight 1830kg
cls 55 amg: EU weight 1920kg
m5 is waaaaaaaaaay heavier
etter (M)ake (W)ay and I were talking about the stripped down lightweight streetfighting M3 CSL not the Mercedes CLS.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='255933' date='Mar 16 2006, 11:20 PM
Interesting but that doesn't tell me anything. I only look at the numbers and interpret a bit the drive tests.
03-17-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='255703' date='Mar 16 2006, 09:47 AM
Not smth new, it's rather old actually, but i think there are alot of members that haven't seen it:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=35...129399&q=bmw+m5
What more prove does one need?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=35...129399&q=bmw+m5
What more prove does one need?
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Originally Posted by ericdbs' post='256540' date='Mar 18 2006, 03:38 AM
my brothers and i would supply bestmotoring with radio communication @ their shoots here and cali and japan..kewl guys..they plug us on some of their videos... eric d