2010 M5 !
04-16-2007, 10:46 AM
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bottom line if bmw wants to keep up with mercedes they are goin to have tto beef up their displacment in thier motors end of story theres is no replacement for displacment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-17-2007, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw528i' post='414325' date='Apr 16 2007, 09:46 PM
bottom line if bmw wants to keep up with mercedes they are goin to have tto beef up their displacment in thier motors end of story theres is no replacement for displacment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The new M3 has indeed a low end torque compared to the 550i and even the peak torque it's not impressive compared to it's bigger brother but that engine has way more advantages. It's very light compared to other V8s, it revs higher so the delivery will be different and the torque is still strong espite the high reviing concept.
04-17-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='414692' date='Apr 17 2007, 05:09 AM
Well...not 100% true. BMW for instance has been able to compete with mercedes and audi with their FI but using NA engines that paradox-ally didn't use bigger displacements. By using the high reving concept and recently with the well coped 7spd gearbox they pulled it off.
The new M3 has indeed a low end torque compared to the 550i and even the peak torque it's not impressive compared to it's bigger brother but that engine has way more advantages. It's very light compared to other V8s, it revs higher so the delivery will be different and the torque is still strong espite the high reviing concept.
The new M3 has indeed a low end torque compared to the 550i and even the peak torque it's not impressive compared to it's bigger brother but that engine has way more advantages. It's very light compared to other V8s, it revs higher so the delivery will be different and the torque is still strong espite the high reviing concept.
Well said.I agree, IF there is a replacement for displacment it is Higher RPM/Light weight engines.
04-17-2007, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw528i' post='414257' date='Apr 16 2007, 10:56 AM
I WANT THE NEW M5 ( BMW I HOPE YOUR LISTENING ) TO HAVE :
1) BIGGER DISPLACMENT 5.5 L AT LEAST 550 HP
2) MORE TORQUE THROUGHOUT 383 FTLBS NOT ENOUGH
3) LIGHTEN UP 4130 LBS NEEDS TO GO ON A DIET PLEASE LOSE SOME WEIGHT !!!!!
4) FIX THE SMG QUIRKS
1) BIGGER DISPLACMENT 5.5 L AT LEAST 550 HP
2) MORE TORQUE THROUGHOUT 383 FTLBS NOT ENOUGH
3) LIGHTEN UP 4130 LBS NEEDS TO GO ON A DIET PLEASE LOSE SOME WEIGHT !!!!!
4) FIX THE SMG QUIRKS
What do you drive now?
04-17-2007, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bmw528i' post='413969' date='Apr 15 2007, 12:42 PM
Ok i am considering using my bonus to buy an m5 ... but after extensive research on the inet i have come up with some ruffage about a totaly new 2010 m5 with even more power and bigger motor .... anyone who can concur on this with me ? shoul di wait ??
The problem with SMG is it can be 'jerky' at low speeds. That definitely takes a significant amount of driver input to smooth things out, but it's not that difficult. It's just not as smooth as say an E63, but I test drove an E63 and a CLS 63 this week, and wouldn't trade the M5 for them for anything.
04-18-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw528i' post='414257' date='Apr 16 2007, 07:56 AM
I WANT THE NEW M5 ( BMW I HOPE YOUR LISTENING ) TO HAVE :
1) BIGGER DISPLACMENT 5.5 L AT LEAST 550 HP
2) MORE TORQUE THROUGHOUT 383 FTLBS NOT ENOUGH
3) LIGHTEN UP 4130 LBS NEEDS TO GO ON A DIET PLEASE LOSE SOME WEIGHT !!!!!
4) FIX THE SMG QUIRKS
1) BIGGER DISPLACMENT 5.5 L AT LEAST 550 HP
2) MORE TORQUE THROUGHOUT 383 FTLBS NOT ENOUGH
3) LIGHTEN UP 4130 LBS NEEDS TO GO ON A DIET PLEASE LOSE SOME WEIGHT !!!!!
4) FIX THE SMG QUIRKS
I may have a fix for you my friend
1) Dinan Stroker Motor due in 3-4 months (650 HP)
2) 3.91 gears (TQ increase of 9%)
3) Carbon Hood, Trunk lid, Forged wheels + titanium exhaust = 100-120 lbs lost
4) 6 Speed Man.
04-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlack' post='415234' date='Apr 18 2007, 12:41 PM
I may have a fix for you my friend
1) Dinan Stroker Motor due in 3-4 months (650 HP)
2) 3.91 gears (TQ increase of 9%)
3) Carbon Hood, Trunk lid, Forged wheels + titanium exhaust = 100-120 lbs lost
4) 6 Speed Man.
1) Dinan Stroker Motor due in 3-4 months (650 HP)
2) 3.91 gears (TQ increase of 9%)
3) Carbon Hood, Trunk lid, Forged wheels + titanium exhaust = 100-120 lbs lost
4) 6 Speed Man.
how does your 550i run with thos emods you hav e?
that dinan motor has o be big bucks !!!
04-19-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw528i' post='415516' date='Apr 18 2007, 09:08 PM
how does your 550i run with thos emods you hav e?
that dinan motor has o be big bucks !!!
that dinan motor has o be big bucks !!!
I will be at Dinan next month to get the Flywheel and 3.45 Gears. (17% effective TQ Increase)
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What's the rough estimated cost for the Dinan stroker engine? RDSport has a stroker engine also for the M5 and it's rated at 638hp.
I'm sure they will up the ante on the next M5 considering that the upcoming RS6 is rumored to have a 580 twin turbo engine. Imagine what a simple software upgrade can do to that car.
I'm sure they will up the ante on the next M5 considering that the upcoming RS6 is rumored to have a 580 twin turbo engine. Imagine what a simple software upgrade can do to that car.