Wheels weight?
04-20-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEE' post='271941' date='Apr 20 2006, 04:45 PM
What does staggered mean?
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Originally Posted by buddy' post='271920' date='Apr 21 2006, 01:49 AM
I am partial to the BBS RXII in the 19 inch catagory staggerd of course. Does not take away from the classy looks of the car or the ride
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My Ride: carbon black/black dakota, M package with M aero kit, M suspension and 18" 135 M style wheels -
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Very interesting thread, I think!
After reading all that stuff on RFTs and after my first 2000 km on them, I?m planning to use my 135 style 18" wheels for winter tires, and to put complete, non-RFT new summer wheels on next spring (maybe earlier
). Probably 19", then, definitely no 20"s.
Thinking about new rims, weight is an important matter, because a larger tire dimension will add weight (and drag) anyway. So physics tell us, if you want to better the performance or handling of the car in normal driving conditions, you have to look for a low overall weight of the wheel, thus reducing unsprung masses, even more, if you have a stiffer suspension and low-shoulder tires, or else you?ll end up with a choppy ride.
On the other hand, same physics tell us, that the more weight is balanced at the hub of the wheel, the better, because rotating masses multiply their weight with distance from the center and speed. This can be achieved by rim design.
Leaving out exotic materials like magnesium or carbon, and of course taking into account personal taste, that left me with the BBS CK-II as the rim of choice. It?s a two-piece, cast-alloy wheel with a polished, but not glossy=pimpy look. It?s low weight, due to CAD-optimized design and a hollow inner rim. And it has a stainless-steel protector on the outer rim to avoid curbside damages to the wheel itself. The same protector allows for invisible mounting of the balancing weights.
Unfortunately, to come back to Your question, I couldn?t find solid specs on the weight of different rim types in th right size, either. If anyone can provide true weight measurements, this would be very helpful.
After reading all that stuff on RFTs and after my first 2000 km on them, I?m planning to use my 135 style 18" wheels for winter tires, and to put complete, non-RFT new summer wheels on next spring (maybe earlier
). Probably 19", then, definitely no 20"s.Thinking about new rims, weight is an important matter, because a larger tire dimension will add weight (and drag) anyway. So physics tell us, if you want to better the performance or handling of the car in normal driving conditions, you have to look for a low overall weight of the wheel, thus reducing unsprung masses, even more, if you have a stiffer suspension and low-shoulder tires, or else you?ll end up with a choppy ride.
On the other hand, same physics tell us, that the more weight is balanced at the hub of the wheel, the better, because rotating masses multiply their weight with distance from the center and speed. This can be achieved by rim design.
Leaving out exotic materials like magnesium or carbon, and of course taking into account personal taste, that left me with the BBS CK-II as the rim of choice. It?s a two-piece, cast-alloy wheel with a polished, but not glossy=pimpy look. It?s low weight, due to CAD-optimized design and a hollow inner rim. And it has a stainless-steel protector on the outer rim to avoid curbside damages to the wheel itself. The same protector allows for invisible mounting of the balancing weights.
Unfortunately, to come back to Your question, I couldn?t find solid specs on the weight of different rim types in th right size, either. If anyone can provide true weight measurements, this would be very helpful.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='271902' date='Apr 20 2006, 11:56 PM
Links ats links PLEASE. That weight is enough to clear almost any design factor in my mind. 
9x20 13.7 kg
11x20 14.1 kg
ANNIVERSARY I 1pc
9x20 16.0 kg
11x20 16.85 kg
the favourite editon race is less but do not find it anywhere, will ask...
THERE is NO link these info are N/A... that is a habit I guess.
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='272092' date='Apr 21 2006, 11:54 AM
ANNIVERSARY II 3 pcs
9x20 13.7 kg
11x20 14.1 kg
ANNIVERSARY I 1pc
9x20 16.0 kg
11x20 16.85 kg
the favourite editon race is less but do not find it anywhere, will ask...
THERE is NO link these info are N/A... that is a habit I guess.
9x20 13.7 kg
11x20 14.1 kg
ANNIVERSARY I 1pc
9x20 16.0 kg
11x20 16.85 kg
the favourite editon race is less but do not find it anywhere, will ask...
THERE is NO link these info are N/A... that is a habit I guess.
Anniversary II isn't in 19" size also?
Thanx.
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19" Dinan forged wheels are among the lightest:
19x9: 19.75 lbs ; 9 kg
19x10: 20.75 lbs; 9.4 kg
Radenergie R10s are also pretty light:
20x9: 26.5 lbs; 12 kg
20x10: 29.4 lbs; 13.4 kg
19x9: 19.75 lbs ; 9 kg
19x10: 20.75 lbs; 9.4 kg
Radenergie R10s are also pretty light:
20x9: 26.5 lbs; 12 kg
20x10: 29.4 lbs; 13.4 kg
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='272316' date='Apr 21 2006, 09:51 PM
19" Dinan forged wheels are among the lightest:
19x9: 19.75 lbs ; 9 kg
19x10: 20.75 lbs; 9.4 kg
Radenergie R10s are also pretty light:
20x9: 26.5 lbs; 12 kg
20x10: 29.4 lbs; 13.4 kg
19x9: 19.75 lbs ; 9 kg
19x10: 20.75 lbs; 9.4 kg
Radenergie R10s are also pretty light:
20x9: 26.5 lbs; 12 kg
20x10: 29.4 lbs; 13.4 kg
04-21-2006, 11:10 AM
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The stock wheels and tires are unbelievaly heavy. They are 62 and 64 lbs per corner, front and rear. With 19" BBS RS-GT's I saved 14 lbs per corner! My old car:
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='272321' date='Apr 21 2006, 12:04 PM
Guys pls share some pics or links to the rims along with the specs. Thanx.
Radenergie:
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='272109' date='Apr 21 2006, 11:54 AM
Ok pics then!!!
Anniversary II isn't in 19" size also?
Thanx.
Anniversary II isn't in 19" size also?
Thanx.
Anniversary II
Anniversary I
