UMNITZA ICE V2 - Arrived!! High Resol. Pics Posted!!
Originally Posted by nicke60gre' post='449795' date='Jul 19 2007, 10:47 AM
Fair to me is, if you can find an ICE V2 buyer/owner (well known in our forums) and install AIB on his car's left side headlight and ICE on his right side.
This could be a fair comparison and there is no room for doubt then.
This could be a fair comparison and there is no room for doubt then.
Originally Posted by ro11dice' post='449805' date='Jul 19 2007, 08:58 PM
Nick, I'm sure this will happen in one of our mini-meets in NorCal. Although, I don't think anyone has AIB v3 yet. So far it's ICE v2 and AIB v2 and I think AIB v1. I think coolguy will have both ICE v2 and AIB v3 soon.
That would be great, and we all will see clearly a) which one is brighter and b) if AIB is brighter (what I expect), whether difference in brightness is worth the difference in price or not.
Reliability is also an issue but that's a matter of time. I could tune my ICE with 14V power to get 20% more brightness, but it will last 3-4 months then.
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Originally Posted by nicke60gre' post='449795' date='Jul 19 2007, 07:47 PM
Rj, your persistence against ICE looks strange to me. AIB also had some issues in the past, with car's radio FM reception, but ICE buyers didn't mentioned anything against AIBs issue.
I just bought ICE because of its more logical price, which is again high for a product like that, even after the discount.
Sorry but this is not fair, why did you do it?
Fair to me is, if you can find an ICE V2 buyer/owner (well known in our forums) and install AIB on his car's left side headlight and ICE on his right side.
This could be a fair comparison and there is no room for doubt then.
I just bought ICE because of its more logical price, which is again high for a product like that, even after the discount.
Sorry but this is not fair, why did you do it?
Fair to me is, if you can find an ICE V2 buyer/owner (well known in our forums) and install AIB on his car's left side headlight and ICE on his right side.
This could be a fair comparison and there is no room for doubt then.
It's one thing discussing about valid problems/issues/comparisons and another slandering innuendo's like school kids -and persistent at that !! - honestly !!!! :thumbsdown:
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Originally Posted by ro11dice' post='449805' date='Jul 19 2007, 12:58 PM
Nick, I'm sure this will happen in one of our mini-meets in NorCal. Although, I don't think anyone has AIB v3 yet. So far it's ICE v2 and AIB v2 and I think AIB v1. I think coolguy will have both ICE v2 and AIB v3 soon.
Yep, AIBv3 shipped yest, so should have it by Friday, so expect comparison pics and all on Saturday first thing

But, keep in mind, we are not really comparing apples-to-apples here.. ICE V2 is $200 compared to $270 for AIB V3. Let's see .. if the xtra brightness (if at all it any brighter than icev2) is worth $70 more
Originally Posted by coolguy' post='449869' date='Jul 19 2007, 03:23 PM
Yep, AIBv3 shipped yest, so should have it by Friday, so expect comparison pics and all on Saturday first thing 
But, keep in mind, we are not really comparing apples-to-apples here.. ICE V2 is $200 compared to $270 for AIB V3. Let's see .. if the xtra brightness (if at all it any brighter than icev2) is worth $70 more

But, keep in mind, we are not really comparing apples-to-apples here.. ICE V2 is $200 compared to $270 for AIB V3. Let's see .. if the xtra brightness (if at all it any brighter than icev2) is worth $70 more

Umnitza has been involved in a lot of issues, a lot of very compromising ethical issues, i was all for predator but since he made a post remark trying to quiet me down i lost respect for them. I did some research and have heard horror stories, do research yourself and you will find that their quality is not the greatest and their marketing scheme and tactics are unethical and just unscrupulous.
That's why i say what i say. Aside from thinking their product is okay, I do beleive AIB product is better that's all. He tends to quiet me down whenever i have mentioned it and i reply as accordingly.
That's all
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Originally Posted by rjcastr' post='449886' date='Jul 19 2007, 04:13 PM
Umnitza has been involved in a lot of issues, a lot of very compromising ethical issues, i was all for predator but since he made a post remark trying to quiet me down i lost respect for them. I did some research and have heard horror stories, do research yourself and you will find that their quality is not the greatest and their marketing scheme and tactics are unethical and just unscrupulous.
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Originally Posted by coolguy' post='449888' date='Jul 19 2007, 02:17 PM
Where is this "Compromising ethical issues" "horror stories" "quality is not great" "Invovled in lot issues" Coming from?? with out you ever buying anything from them?
j/k rj!Not to say umnitza is any better by egging him on.

Guess we'll just have to wait on coolguy's review of both products.
Originally Posted by coolguy' post='449888' date='Jul 19 2007, 02:17 PM
Where is this "Compromising ethical issues" "horror stories" "quality is not great" "Invovled in lot issues" Coming from??
Look, no company is perfect, we've had our issues. I mismanaged some problems and let them get out of hand in some cases, in some cases, it was circumstance.
No matter what, I've taken responsibliity for everything and have improved every aspect of our business, some people don't want to believe that and continue to be upset, that I cannot take away from them. I've also been personally victim to two very unscrupulous and unethical employees - I take FULL responsibiloity for their mistakes because I hired them and it was a bad idea to do so. One went on to help defraud (in another company) of thousands of dollars.
I don't know where this unethical BS started but I'm the least unethical person on the planet when it comes to taking care of my customers - but I've been known to exceed the speed limit at times

My marketing tactics? yes, they border on what some call "SPAM" while most of my customers see them as informative. What camp you fall under? That's your call.
When you're on top, you have everyone taking pot shots at you. But RJ, enough with the kindergarden innuendo.
I wont' name names but there are companies that:
Take peoples money and ship them faulty goods with knowledge - we don't do this.
Take peoples money and forget to ship them items - we don't do this.
Take peoples money and refuse to service products - we don't do this.
Do our problems have issues, yes, sometimes they do. Many times they are blown out of proportion. We don't hide from them. We are actively resolving all of them. That's it, that's all.
Good luck to you and you innuendo RJ. It's people like you...well, the board's members have already said what needs to be said.
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Originally Posted by KnIgHtCoM' post='449896' date='Jul 19 2007, 04:30 PM
He's pulling these accusations out of his butt just like everything else that comes out of his mouth.
j/k rj!
Not to say umnitza is any better by egging him on.
Guess we'll just have to wait on coolguy's review of both products.
j/k rj!Not to say umnitza is any better by egging him on.
Guess we'll just have to wait on coolguy's review of both products.
I guess you both still eagerly anxiously meet at the carmeet soon
.. pls take pics


