Quaife LSD for Steptronic
11-02-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='710196' date='Nov 2 2008, 08:54 PM
Is it possible to replace 545/550 std diff with an M5/M6 LSD? Even in a steptronic? Thanks.
I think no, because M5 LSD is electronically controlled.
The Quaife, from what I read, is better than the Mdiff.
11-02-2008, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='710201' date='Nov 2 2008, 12:02 PM
I think no, because M5 LSD is electronically controlled.
The Quaife, from what I read, is better than the Mdiff.
The Quaife, from what I read, is better than the Mdiff.
11-02-2008, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='710223' date='Nov 2 2008, 09:35 PM
Thanks Alex. Please share your comments/experience on your LSD setup, pre and post Quaife LSD. Also cost and installation. Thanks again.
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If you plan to keep the car, it is a must.
EUR 1600-1700 installed.
If someone want to get it from BirdsUK, send me a PM and you will have instructions to have a little discount on the listed price.
11-02-2008, 12:30 PM
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I also had the Quaife LSD installed along with other mods to my car and let me tell you it feel ALOT different and faster on some twisties.
As the twisties get tighter it make up for the money as the cars feels it pulls down the power much better, instead of starting to spin the inner rear tire till it smokes it. Also what i noticed is the fact it's alot harder to drift it, not that the car is harder to keep it in drift (which is easier as i'll explain) but there is so much traction (of course DSC off COMPLETELY) that it's harder than it used to be without lsd. Since without lsd the inner tire would very soon start to loose traction, it was just a matter of insistence to brake loose the other rear tire. Now you get the torque more evenly displaced and so it's in a way tougher to begin a drift. Even for me with just 272 bhp but with 560 NM of torque it's kind of hard sometimes, as i often have to fight the steering wheel a lil bit.
As for keeping the car drifting, well that's another story. Now it's way easier to keep it drifting, especially on wet, but most importantly it feel easier and safer. Since when it used to lack the lsd the car would spin one tire to oblivion it also was unpredictable at times. For example you could hit a dirty side of the road with the rear wheel that had more traction to it and you would end up caught off guard resulting in a nasty spin. Another example is that you had to modulate the throttle alot more when the car lacked the lsd, since it took more aggressive style to keep the traction loosed.
And for course, the end of a slide which IMHO tells the difference between amateurs drifters and skilled ones. Without lsd i would almost always finish off the drift with a big degree of fish tailing. And no matter how gentle i eased of the throttle it was still there. At times when i was more careless i found even dangerous the fishtail that it might send you the other way around. Now this effect is greatly diminished because of the even distribution of torque to the rear wheels. Truth be told it hasn't gone completely but i think that's mainly because i drive a diesel and as so it had low rev range so it's more like an on/off switch, so it's harder to precisely modulate the throttle (i think a petrol acts way better at this).
And yes finally acceleration which has gone...well worse.
Around 0.3 seconds or even more worse but that's because i didn't properly compare it with my 18" rims. With 20"s it shows a worse standing still acceleration. I think with 18"s it will probably be anywhere around 0.2 to even 0.4 seconds faster. When i'll swap wheels will test.
PS: Sorry for the typeoes but it's quite late and i need to get up early tomorrow morning. Hope what i wrote shed some light on the subject.
As the twisties get tighter it make up for the money as the cars feels it pulls down the power much better, instead of starting to spin the inner rear tire till it smokes it. Also what i noticed is the fact it's alot harder to drift it, not that the car is harder to keep it in drift (which is easier as i'll explain) but there is so much traction (of course DSC off COMPLETELY) that it's harder than it used to be without lsd. Since without lsd the inner tire would very soon start to loose traction, it was just a matter of insistence to brake loose the other rear tire. Now you get the torque more evenly displaced and so it's in a way tougher to begin a drift. Even for me with just 272 bhp but with 560 NM of torque it's kind of hard sometimes, as i often have to fight the steering wheel a lil bit.
As for keeping the car drifting, well that's another story. Now it's way easier to keep it drifting, especially on wet, but most importantly it feel easier and safer. Since when it used to lack the lsd the car would spin one tire to oblivion it also was unpredictable at times. For example you could hit a dirty side of the road with the rear wheel that had more traction to it and you would end up caught off guard resulting in a nasty spin. Another example is that you had to modulate the throttle alot more when the car lacked the lsd, since it took more aggressive style to keep the traction loosed.
And for course, the end of a slide which IMHO tells the difference between amateurs drifters and skilled ones. Without lsd i would almost always finish off the drift with a big degree of fish tailing. And no matter how gentle i eased of the throttle it was still there. At times when i was more careless i found even dangerous the fishtail that it might send you the other way around. Now this effect is greatly diminished because of the even distribution of torque to the rear wheels. Truth be told it hasn't gone completely but i think that's mainly because i drive a diesel and as so it had low rev range so it's more like an on/off switch, so it's harder to precisely modulate the throttle (i think a petrol acts way better at this).
And yes finally acceleration which has gone...well worse.
Around 0.3 seconds or even more worse but that's because i didn't properly compare it with my 18" rims. With 20"s it shows a worse standing still acceleration. I think with 18"s it will probably be anywhere around 0.2 to even 0.4 seconds faster. When i'll swap wheels will test.PS: Sorry for the typeoes but it's quite late and i need to get up early tomorrow morning. Hope what i wrote shed some light on the subject.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='710250' date='Nov 2 2008, 04:30 PM
I also had the Quaife LSD installed along with other mods to my car and let me tell you it feel ALOT different and faster on some twisties.
As the twisties get tighter it make up for the money as the cars feels it pulls down the power much better, instead of starting to spin the inner rear tire till it smokes it. Also what i noticed is the fact it's alot harder to drift it, not that the car is harder to keep it in drift (which is easier as i'll explain) but there is so much traction (of course DSC off COMPLETELY) that it's harder than it used to be without lsd. Since without lsd the inner tire would very soon start to loose traction, it was just a matter of insistence to brake loose the other rear tire. Now you get the torque more evenly displaced and so it's in a way tougher to begin a drift. Even for me with just 272 bhp but with 560 NM of torque it's kind of hard sometimes, as i often have to fight the steering wheel a lil bit.
As for keeping the car drifting, well that's another story. Now it's way easier to keep it drifting, especially on wet, but most importantly it feel easier and safer. Since when it used to lack the lsd the car would spin one tire to oblivion it also was unpredictable at times. For example you could hit a dirty side of the road with the rear wheel that had more traction to it and you would end up caught off guard resulting in a nasty spin. Another example is that you had to modulate the throttle alot more when the car lacked the lsd, since it took more aggressive style to keep the traction loosed.
And for course, the end of a slide which IMHO tells the difference between amateurs drifters and skilled ones. Without lsd i would almost always finish off the drift with a big degree of fish tailing. And no matter how gentle i eased of the throttle it was still there. At times when i was more careless i found even dangerous the fishtail that it might send you the other way around. Now this effect is greatly diminished because of the even distribution of torque to the rear wheels. Truth be told it hasn't gone completely but i think that's mainly because i drive a diesel and as so it had low rev range so it's more like an on/off switch, so it's harder to precisely modulate the throttle (i think a petrol acts way better at this).
And yes finally acceleration which has gone...well worse. Around 0.3 seconds or even more worse but that's because i didn't properly compare it with my 18" rims. With 20"s it shows a worse standing still acceleration. I think with 18"s it will probably be anywhere around 0.2 to even 0.4 seconds faster. When i'll swap wheels will test.
PS: Sorry for the typeoes but it's quite late and i need to get up early tomorrow morning. Hope what i wrote shed some light on the subject.
As the twisties get tighter it make up for the money as the cars feels it pulls down the power much better, instead of starting to spin the inner rear tire till it smokes it. Also what i noticed is the fact it's alot harder to drift it, not that the car is harder to keep it in drift (which is easier as i'll explain) but there is so much traction (of course DSC off COMPLETELY) that it's harder than it used to be without lsd. Since without lsd the inner tire would very soon start to loose traction, it was just a matter of insistence to brake loose the other rear tire. Now you get the torque more evenly displaced and so it's in a way tougher to begin a drift. Even for me with just 272 bhp but with 560 NM of torque it's kind of hard sometimes, as i often have to fight the steering wheel a lil bit.
As for keeping the car drifting, well that's another story. Now it's way easier to keep it drifting, especially on wet, but most importantly it feel easier and safer. Since when it used to lack the lsd the car would spin one tire to oblivion it also was unpredictable at times. For example you could hit a dirty side of the road with the rear wheel that had more traction to it and you would end up caught off guard resulting in a nasty spin. Another example is that you had to modulate the throttle alot more when the car lacked the lsd, since it took more aggressive style to keep the traction loosed.
And for course, the end of a slide which IMHO tells the difference between amateurs drifters and skilled ones. Without lsd i would almost always finish off the drift with a big degree of fish tailing. And no matter how gentle i eased of the throttle it was still there. At times when i was more careless i found even dangerous the fishtail that it might send you the other way around. Now this effect is greatly diminished because of the even distribution of torque to the rear wheels. Truth be told it hasn't gone completely but i think that's mainly because i drive a diesel and as so it had low rev range so it's more like an on/off switch, so it's harder to precisely modulate the throttle (i think a petrol acts way better at this).
And yes finally acceleration which has gone...well worse.
Around 0.3 seconds or even more worse but that's because i didn't properly compare it with my 18" rims. With 20"s it shows a worse standing still acceleration. I think with 18"s it will probably be anywhere around 0.2 to even 0.4 seconds faster. When i'll swap wheels will test.PS: Sorry for the typeoes but it's quite late and i need to get up early tomorrow morning. Hope what i wrote shed some light on the subject.
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Originally Posted by KnIgHtCoM' post='710351' date='Nov 2 2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by silvergray5456spd' post='711161' date='Nov 3 2008, 03:33 PM
i really would like to get the LSD but i have no clue who can install them in the Cleveland area?