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rowekmr 03-30-2016 01:27 PM

OEM vs Sachs vs Bilstein Shocks/Struts
 
I have a 08 535xi with 70k miles with H&R 29146 springs and OEM shocks/struts. The car is bouncy and suspension bottoms out easily. I was thinking of putting in stock springs and new shocks/struts but to possibly to save money I am thinking of saving the springs. I post questions on the springs but haven't gotten much response so I called H&R to see what their shock recommendation and they don't have one. They told me to called Turner Motorsports who said keep the springs and use stock (Sach) shocks or get stock springs with stock shocks.

I read the Sachs are the OEM manufacturer but are they the same specs? What about Bilsteins they have HD, Sport and OEM shocks/struts. Turner said the Sports are for lowered cars but the feedback they got is the ride horrible. I was wondering about the HD or the OEM ones only because they are cheaper and Bilsteins have a great reputation.

InsipidMonkey 03-30-2016 07:20 PM

I'm thinking about a suspension refresh too and am in the same boat. I've been comparing OEM vs Sachs vs Bilstein B4/B6/B8 (TC, HD, Sport), and Stagg.

Stagg's are the cheapest by far (~$300/set), but have mixed reviews. Some people have had them for years with no problems while others report they blow easily. One report also said they were made in the same factory as Bilsteins.
Stagg 4 Struts Shocks BMW E60 525xi 528xi 530xi 535xi XI 04 05 06 07 08 to 10 | eBay

I found BimmerWorld to have the best price on the Bilstein B4 Touring Class (~$450/set), which are supposed to be similar to OEM. They also have the HDs and the Sports. I don't plan on lowering so the Sports are out.
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OEM will run ~$1200, so if I can get away with a cheaper but nearly equivalent option I'll be happy.

Options are limited for the xi's. Anyone else have an opinion?

rowekmr 03-31-2016 08:16 PM

I've done some searching but couldn't find any feedback or experience from anyone shocks/struts except other models. I'm surprised with all those I see lowered and/or rims that there aren't more post on the shocks.


Originally Posted by InsipidMonkey (Post 1576700)
I'm thinking about a suspension refresh too and am in the same boat. I've been comparing OEM vs Sachs vs Bilstein B4/B6/B8 (TC, HD, Sport), and Stagg.

Stagg's are the cheapest by far (~$300/set), but have mixed reviews. Some people have had them for years with no problems while others report they blow easily. One report also said they were made in the same factory as Bilsteins.
Stagg 4 Struts Shocks BMW E60 525xi 528xi 530xi 535xi XI 04 05 06 07 08 to 10 | eBay

I found BimmerWorld to have the best price on the Bilstein B4 Touring Class (~$450/set), which are supposed to be similar to OEM. They also have the HDs and the Sports. I don't plan on lowering so the Sports are out.
Search Results

OEM will run ~$1200, so if I can get away with a cheaper but nearly equivalent option I'll be happy.

Options are limited for the xi's. Anyone else have an opinion?


andrewr 03-31-2016 11:38 PM

The B4's are a bit stiffer than stock yet I prefer it over the Sachs' ride quality.

InsipidMonkey 04-01-2016 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by andrewr (Post 1576755)
The B4's are a bit stiffer than stock yet I prefer it over the Sachs' ride quality.

Do you have the B4s now? How are they holding up?

KyleB 04-01-2016 11:56 AM

Bilsteins. They are the best. I have a set of Bilstein sports on my E30 that are 20+ years old and still performing as new. I have Bilsteins and Eibachs on my E60, ride quality is as good or better than OEM.

BimmerFan52 04-01-2016 02:26 PM

+1

Bilsteins are great. I had a couple of leaking original struts and switched over to B8 sport struts. I expected much of the mushiness to go away but never expected the huge improvement in handling that was the result. With the active sway bars handling was already very good, but now I can throw the car around with controlled precision.

For those of you in major cities with pot holes the size of Smart cars I would not recommend the B8s as you will knock the fillings out of your teeth. :) B4s (either regular travel or shorter travel sports if you have a sport suspension) would be a better choice. But here in Scottsdale with our glass-smooth roads (many rubber coated to reduce noise) the B8s are fantastic.

rowekmr 04-29-2016 08:37 PM

I finally got the body work done and drove the car after the tech said the shocks/struts were good. The car doesn't drive as bad as I originally thought I guess I have rough streets around my house. Taking it out on the city streets and highway I haven't had any issues yet but I do drive carefully around ruts.

JasonH 04-30-2016 03:11 AM

I've just put OEM spec Bilsteins in our Ford and they're really nice. Good quality and ride really well.

star69me 04-30-2016 02:02 PM

Hey Kyle B I have a 07 550i what number of bilstein are you running? I have the eibach springs and need to change out my shocks/struts.




Originally Posted by KyleB (Post 1576792)
Bilsteins. They are the best. I have a set of Bilstein sports on my E30 that are 20+ years old and still performing as new. I have Bilsteins and Eibachs on my E60, ride quality is as good or better than OEM.


star69me 04-30-2016 02:18 PM

Ok I do have some ruff roads all over jacksonville florida and I don't have the roads laced with rubber so which ones should I get if no to the 8's and the 4's







Originally Posted by BimmerFan52 (Post 1576794)
+1

Bilsteins are great. I had a couple of leaking original struts and switched over to B8 sport struts. I expected much of the mushiness to go away but never expected the huge improvement in handling that was the result. With the active sway bars handling was already very good, but now I can throw the car around with controlled precision.

For those of you in major cities with pot holes the size of Smart cars I would not recommend the B8s as you will knock the fillings out of your teeth. :) B4s (either regular travel or shorter travel sports if you have a sport suspension) would be a better choice. But here in Scottsdale with our glass-smooth roads (many rubber coated to reduce noise) the B8s are fantastic.


89mustaine 05-05-2016 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by star69me (Post 1577907)
Ok I do have some ruff roads all over jacksonville florida and I don't have the roads laced with rubber so which ones should I get if no to the 8's and the 4's

+1 here. Rough roads here in NorCal. I have Sport (not Msport) don't really want to go any lower, but would welcome something superior or equal to OEM if the price was comparable.

inline6xi 05-09-2019 07:53 PM

Anyone have updates with using the bilsteins on the 535xi? I have an 08, and I'm upgrading the suspension. It's been hard to find info, but from the above posts it sounds like the bilsteins B6 may be a good middle ground stock for comfort/handling and would also accommodate a slightly lower ride height?

JayArras 05-10-2019 05:29 AM

There are actually a number of threads discussing this. Quality and results haven't changed in the three years since the start of this thread. People who like the Bilsteins still like the Bilsteins and those who like Sachs still like the Sachs.

inline6xi 05-11-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by JayArras (Post 1600348)
There are actually a number of threads discussing this. Quality and results haven't changed in the three years since the start of this thread. People who like the Bilsteins still like the Bilsteins and those who like Sachs still like the Sachs.

ok, thanks? I've many threads on this forum regarding aftermarket suspension for the 535xi. lots of good info like you said, I just wanted to get some more specific feedback for bilstein B6. I found a comment you made in a different thread:


Originally Posted by JayArras (Post 1589700)
Boring is good if you want a softer ride. I recently installed the B6's on my '07 530xi and HATE them compared to my OEM Sachs.

What did you ultimately end up doing on your ride Jay?

JayArras 05-12-2019 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by inline6xi (Post 1600358)

What did you ultimately end up doing on your ride Jay?

I kept the Bilsteins because I'm cheap and lazy and didn't want to go through the hassle of switching them out. If I ever have to do this again, I'll go with the Sachs.

balbs 10-05-2021 08:29 AM

I'm thinking of getting this B4 kit for my car (2006 525i standard suspension). Do I have to get anything else like adapters or something? Would it just be plug and play?

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bilstein...t/22-138361kt/

Sad thing is they seem to be backordered everywhere.

Thanks!


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