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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bjsbuds' post='1092536' date='Jan 17 2010, 02:36 PM
Now for the Smoked vs. Clear comparison. The Clear are on the left and Smoked on the right. Again, the Smoke look much brighter in the photos.

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Right side of Smoked tail light.

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This is about the truest color comparison to actual.

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Again pretty close to actual with lights on.

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With lights off.

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I think you get the idea.

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Here's my opinion. Sure they are not LCI OEMs with Bruce's cables, but they are a vast improvement over pre-LCI tail lights. Providing Bruce's cables are not cost prohibited, I plan to buy them and improve these lights even more.

As Bruce has implied if you can afford the OEM LCIs that's the way to go. I prefered to use those funds to replace all other lights, Angel Eyes, HID, Fogs, Interior LED, and License Plate LED, with the savings by going replica.

BTW, this was by far the easiest mod to install yet!

thank you. I'm glad someone set aside some time just to show all of the member's here a legitimate comparison between the two..... that being said, I'm still undecided LOL
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisxiv' post='1092696' date='Jan 18 2010, 01:18 AM
thank you. I'm glad someone set aside some time just to show all of the member's here a legitimate comparison between the two..... that being said, I'm still undecided LOL
Me too!
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='1092424' date='Jan 17 2010, 01:12 PM
So finally managed to get some photos. If anyone makes fun of my photo taking skills or my camera then I'll be very upset

The difference is quite a lot but they don't come out well on my stupid dinky little camera. But hopefully you can see it.

On the LEFT is my kit on these lights and on the RIGHT is the lights unmodified.

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You can clearly see the bulbs lit behind the rods in the unmodified version.

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Which I suppress until you press the Brake. I've also made the LED rods a lot brighter.

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The quality of the material used for the LED rods is quite a lot poorer than the OEM tubes and they also have the LEDs positioned the wrong way. To overcome this I've had to make a few adjustments to my V6 configuration to make the LED rods brighter. When I tested this on the OEM lights the LED rods were blinding.

All I can say is that unmodified these lights can almost be considered unsafe because the Brake light is significantly dimmer than BMW intended. Everything else is acceptable. With my kit I think I've resolved all the issues I can without ripping the entire light apart and redoing the circuit.

My kit will be completely plug and play. I wonder how popular the kits for these lights will be because in Europe they are quite expensive. I paid about 250 EUROS from a seller in Germany on ebay.de

For that reason I cannot mass produce these just yet and they may not work out as cheap I would have hoped for. But I hope you like the results.
Bruce - how much (continuous, not pulsed I assume) voltage are you sending to the LED bars with the new cabling?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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maybe this will help, ha ha..... i know its cheaper to do the cheaper ones, but the cost of oem is comming down and wow they look 100 times nicer
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ericdiver' post='1093192' date='Jan 19 2010, 10:33 AM
maybe this will help, ha ha..... i know its cheaper to do the cheaper ones, but the cost of oem is comming down and wow they look 100 times nicer
Nice photo,
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleFodder' post='1093026' date='Jan 18 2010, 08:37 PM
Bruce - how much (continuous, not pulsed I assume) voltage are you sending to the LED bars with the new cabling?
I take the pulsed feed and convert that to a continuous one and try to get as close to 12V continuous that I can. On these lights I need to get very close to 12V for the LED rods to start looking nice because of the poorer plastic used in the rods. But on the OEM lights I don't need to as much. I actually think it probably was a design decision not to make the rods stretch all the way around because they just couldn't figure out how to keep the rods illuminated for that length. You can see it even now it starts off bright from the side but then the light fade very quickly as it travels down the tub.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ericdiver' post='1093192' date='Jan 18 2010, 09:33 PM
maybe this will help, ha ha..... i know its cheaper to do the cheaper ones, but the cost of oem is comming down and wow they look 100 times nicer
Very nice! How much is the cost of OEM now days?
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsbuds' post='1093304' date='Jan 19 2010, 07:14 AM
Very nice! How much is the cost of OEM now days?
There is a couple of oem lights only for about $300 400 used on eBay then u need a Bruce resistor kit or whatever for $200 or so
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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I thought Bruce's sale price for the kit of $285 was no longer valid?
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Job well-done Bruce!
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