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Old 05-10-2005, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvE60' date='May 10 2005, 01:58 AM
So I have the Mkit going on next week.? I have the 166 stle rims going on after that.

Should I add this:

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This is one of the things I would not do as it is non-functional, same as the quad exhaust (imo). I have the M-Sport package, because I like the sporty look. The same reason as why I would like to have the M-mirrors (and they are an official accessory as well).

But with these air intakes, they have absolutely no use at all.
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Originally Posted by joel_BE' date='May 10 2005, 01:24 PM
[quote name='LuvE60' date='May 10 2005, 01:58 AM']So I have the Mkit going on next week.? I have the 166 stle rims going on after that.

Should I add this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW
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This is one of the things I would not do as it is non-functional, same as the quad exhaust (imo). I have the M-Sport package, because I like the sporty look. The same reason as why I would like to have the M-mirrors (and they are an official accessory as well).

But with these air intakes, they have absolutely no use at all.
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Just noticed that you will require drilling on your front fenders to fit this side grill. (cutting templates is including). No thanks.
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Oh hahahahahahahha


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Oh brother... thats a no no it has the words "M5" on it... you can mod your car however much you want just dont use the words M5 on it, unless its a real M5, keep your existing badge... All M5 parts and then debadged is pushing it. My opinion of course.
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Originally Posted by Merzbow' date='May 9 2005, 07:14 PM
I don't agree with adding 'M-this' and 'M-that' aftermarket items to a stock E60. It's like putting Type-R stickers on a non-Type-R Acura. If you want people to think you're driving an M5, then buy an M5. There are LOTS of ways to dress up a stock E60 that don't make it look like an M5.
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I agree although I dont think the M-Tech Aero kit is considered making the car look like an M5 I just think that it makes the car look sportier
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='May 11 2005, 12:48 AM
Oh hahahahahahahha


Disclaimer: Following statement is not in response to anyone especially not to LuvE60... its a general comment I'm going to make:

Oh brother... thats a no no it has the words "M5" on it... you can mod your car however much you want just dont use the words M5 on it, unless its a real M5, keep your existing badge... All M5 parts and then debadged is pushing it. My opinion of course.
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It is made in china though good quality plastic. i ahve it at home, I ordered it, have no car for the moment.
But then will leave it on my shelf for my e60 e46 M3 M5 modells as an additional ornament

THIS one comes with not only ///M5 sticker but their own dunno...

But here I saw also on a stock ... would not put it.
Aftermarket tuning compnies make their own it, but need a new pair of fenders ..about 1500 ?
like this one
How cheesy would this be?-hamann_005.jpg

in fact this has nothing to do with the M5 so it is not posing, function? dunno maybe a bit cooling the hood
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Also on the 'sad badge' theme, saw an e60 sport that obviously had been de-badged, but the guy had put an M badge in its place

Thought e60 drivers were above that, clearly not!!
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I just don't get that. If you're going to spend the money to personalize your car, why try and make it something it's not. How could a person who drives an E60 think that putting ANYTHING "M" on the car won't make him look like a tool. Anytime I see a non M car with M badging, I just can't help but think how pathetic. I really try and get a good look at the person. In one instance, I was sitting right next to this E39 at a light, it was obviously a 530 w/ a sport package. It was sapphire black, really nice car but the guy had an M5 trunk lip, M5 wheels and M badges all over the damn thing. Trunk, sides, front grill. I was driving my wife's X5 and I rolled down my window and said to him, WOW, that's a nice car, what is that? I gave him the out. He had his chance to redeem himself. If he said to me, it's actually a 530, I would have given him a little credit but he came right out and said, Oh thanks, it's an M5. I said, I thought M5's had quad exhausts and different mirrors and different bumpers. He just wanted to die. The light changed and he just sat there, I guess he didn't want me to hear his 6 cylinder roar away from the light. So silly. Now granted, I did put the 4.6 wheels on my wife's 3.0 X5 and debadge the whole truck but I'm not posing. Am I?????? Please tell me I'm not.
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Originally Posted by poleposition' date='May 11 2005, 06:46 AM
I just don't get that.? If you're going to spend the money to personalize your car, why try and make it something it's not.? How could a person who drives an E60 think that putting ANYTHING "M" on the car won't make him look like a tool.? Anytime I see a non M car with M badging, I just can't help but think how pathetic.? I really try and get a good look at the person.? In one instance, I was sitting right next to this E39 at a light, it was obviously a 530 w/ a sport package.? It was sapphire black, really nice car but the guy had an M5 trunk lip, M5 wheels and M badges all over the damn thing.? Trunk, sides, front grill.? I was driving my wife's X5 and I rolled down my window and said to him, WOW, that's a nice car, what is that?? I gave him the out.? He had his chance to redeem himself.? If he said to me, it's actually a 530, I would have given him a little credit but he came right out and said, Oh thanks, it's an M5.? I said, I thought M5's had quad exhausts and different mirrors and different bumpers.? He just wanted to die.? The light changed and he just sat there, I guess he didn't want me to hear his 6 cylinder roar away from the light.? So silly.? Now granted, I did put the 4.6 wheels on my wife's 3.0 X5 and debadge the whole truck but I'm not posing.? Am I??????? Please tell me I'm not.
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Originally Posted by andy535d' date='May 11 2005, 01:59 PM
Also on the 'sad badge' theme, saw an e60 sport that obviously had been de-badged, but the guy had put an M badge in its place

Thought e60 drivers were above that, clearly not!!
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sorry wazzup man, if you put an ///M it is ok as it is not an M5...
but you can luv M Technik so it is no posing the fender gills and M5 badges yes, but the simple badge I think it is genuie BMW so you can use it.

The M5 rims on e60 we say ok, nice kool and I agree but than a simple badge.
Search many people have put it on their 337 ///M Sport pack. and they are right it is not M5 but M.

I am not going to install the ///M pack. but if I did or even without cud put the M badge anytime. YOu saw it all over the world on E46s.
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Originally Posted by poleposition' date='May 11 2005, 02:46 PM
I just don't get that.? If you're going to spend the money to personalize your car, why try and make it something it's not.? How could a person who drives an E60 think that putting ANYTHING "M" on the car won't make him look like a tool.? Anytime I see a non M car with M badging, I just can't help but think how pathetic.? I really try and get a good look at the person.? In one instance, I was sitting right next to this E39 at a light, it was obviously a 530 w/ a sport package.? It was sapphire black, really nice car but the guy had an M5 trunk lip, M5 wheels and M badges all over the damn thing.? Trunk, sides, front grill.? I was driving my wife's X5 and I rolled down my window and said to him, WOW, that's a nice car, what is that?? I gave him the out.? He had his chance to redeem himself.? If he said to me, it's actually a 530, I would have given him a little credit but he came right out and said, Oh thanks, it's an M5.? I said, I thought M5's had quad exhausts and different mirrors and different bumpers.? He just wanted to die.? The light changed and he just sat there, I guess he didn't want me to hear his 6 cylinder roar away from the light.? So silly.? Now granted, I did put the 4.6 wheels on my wife's 3.0 X5 and debadge the whole truck but I'm not posing.?? Am I??????? Please tell me I'm not.
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No your right thats another thing, on the otherhand even if I do not like some may want to have a car liek M5 wo money so they can make a replice, once saw a damn nice Ferrari replica was pretty close to the real one, yes an older model but from a distance nobody would know it was real or fake.


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