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Old 01-10-2007, 04:56 AM
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I'm thinking of getting an aftermarket exhaust for my 645.
Is there a difference between the Eisenmann and the Hamann? Aren't they made by the same factory?
The price of an Eisenmann is around 1000 euro and the Hamann about 2000 euro. If there is any difference, is it worth the price-diffrence?

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I thought that Supersprint made the exhaust for Hamann? All I know is that the Eisenmann is louder.
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More opinions please.
Who has the experience of comparing both?

ATS, what's your commend.....?
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I heard the hartge exhaust on an m6 and it gave me goosebumps. I dont know how any other exhausts sound but damn that hartge exhaust was sex to the ears.
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following: 530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman. Mods done: � Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110 � Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130, � Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120 � Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122 � Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216 � Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber , � Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 � Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117 � Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111 � Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409) � ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports) � ///M pack rear � HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm. most improtant: �real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3 � CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows). � Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20" Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315 10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625 Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20 � Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125 � Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM � Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120 � Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235 � Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange) � Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E60.net Clings Still to do list;-): � Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com). � Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
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Eisenmann is more like tube still nice and sound is ok, what is the difference btw the HAMANN one and the others, is the quality of the matterial used, you get stainless steel 4 pipes with 76 mm or for 535D and 550i wit 90mm, and the quality shows buy the time and driving. The experience that SS gain is made the Italian manufacturer the best in the World. HAMANN has exclusive and only for them made SS exhausts, so even an SS exhaust is not yet a HM one. PM if interested for members of E60 we made 15% off for E60 exhausts SALES. Will check e63/64.
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Originally Posted by Doc Horror' post='376750' date='Jan 11 2007, 12:01 PM
More opinions please.
Who has the experience of comparing both?

ATS, what's your commend.....?
Let yourself heared as yours is a 645i the sound will be the same if you also get the center tube kit that makes it deep BASS.

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def. not the same brand nor factory

BTW all the quads in clip ARE 76 mm like this

Eissenmann vs Hamann-62.jpgEissenmann vs Hamann-10.jpg
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Eisenmann has vacuum controlled flap to keep back pressure at low RPM just like stock while Hamann does not have it (correct me if I'm wrong, ats77)
I have not heard any sound or seen either one in person, but surely, the Hamann looks very nice in the picture.

I wish we can have an exhaust-fest to hear how each roars, and we can judge ourselves which one is the cool cat, tiger, lion, elephant or even sea lion
My free Free Flow Dinan Exhaust surely sounds like a Dog barking, but I'm sure it's not German Shepherd More like a Chiwawa(?) or Golden Retriever
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Originally Posted by Doc Horror' post='376301' date='Jan 10 2007, 08:56 AM
I'm thinking of getting an aftermarket exhaust for my 645.
Is there a difference between the Eisenmann and the Hamann? Aren't they made by the same factory?
The price of an Eisenmann is around 1000 euro and the Hamann about 2000 euro. If there is any difference, is it worth the price-diffrence?

Before I ordered my RDSport Quad exhaust for my 545i, one of my shop showed me a 645 with RDSport exahausts on each side and it sounded incredible. Hence, I knew it was what I wanted for my 545i.

Here is the link for the 6 series: http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/NorthAmeri...A_E63_Motor.htm

Hope this helps!
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