E60 M5 FRONT BUMPER RETRO FIT FRONT BUMPER
05-15-2006, 02:08 PM
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Where did the idea come from that the fenders are different?
ats77 has been trying to tell you are they same and I think he is right.
They have vents of course so will have different part numbers but I think you will find that an M5 bumper will fit with the standard wings/fenders.
ats77 has been trying to tell you are they same and I think he is right.
They have vents of course so will have different part numbers but I think you will find that an M5 bumper will fit with the standard wings/fenders.
05-15-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blingo' post='282850' date='May 15 2006, 03:08 PM
Where did the idea come from that the fenders are different?
ats77 has been trying to tell you are they same and I think he is right.
They have vents of course so will have different part numbers but I think you will find that an M5 bumper will fit with the standard wings/fenders.
ats77 has been trying to tell you are they same and I think he is right.
They have vents of course so will have different part numbers but I think you will find that an M5 bumper will fit with the standard wings/fenders.
M5: 1580mm
Stock: 1558mm
05-15-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jiio' post='282865' date='May 15 2006, 06:45 PM
Respectfully, disagree. The difference is about 20mm between M5 fender and stock e60 fender. Check the Owners manual. You can find both manuals here: http://www.e60.net/information. Scroll down to the bottom. If someone wants to put the original M5 front bumper on with stock fenders, they will have to roll each fender about 10mm.
M5: 1580mm
Attachment 18972
Stock: 1558mm
Attachment 18973
M5: 1580mm
Attachment 18972
Stock: 1558mm
Attachment 18973
I think its true. if you look one and other, back and forth, you could see the difference between 2 cars.
05-16-2006, 08:40 AM
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I have only judged this by eye,and the cars were not alongside each other.
My apologies, I bow to your superior knowledge.
It does explain why the M5 and sport bumpers are subtely different. Better leave mine alone then...
My apologies, I bow to your superior knowledge.
It does explain why the M5 and sport bumpers are subtely different. Better leave mine alone then...
05-16-2006, 08:55 AM
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� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
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Originally Posted by jiio' post='282865' date='May 16 2006, 12:45 AM
Respectfully, disagree. The difference is about 20mm between M5 fender and stock e60 fender. Check the Owners manual. You can find both manuals here: http://www.e60.net/information. Scroll down to the bottom. If someone wants to put the original M5 front bumper on with stock fenders, they will have to roll each fender about 10mm.
M5: 1580mm
Attachment 18972
Stock: 1558mm
Attachment 18973
M5: 1580mm
Attachment 18972
Stock: 1558mm
Attachment 18973
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=25360&hl=
05-16-2006, 09:44 AM
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Exterior: 50% side windows / 35% rear window Formula One Pinnacle Series | Flat AMG hood emblem
Suspension: Renntech Lowering Module
Wheels/Tires: Radenergie R10, Falken FK452 245/30/20, Yokohama ADVAN Sport 285/25/20
-----------------------------------------
2005 545i Sport SMG | Ti Grau | Schwarzes Dakota | Anthracite Maple | Logic 7 | Nav
Engine: Custom AFE CAI, Superchips ECU remap, Sprint Booster, RDSport Dual Exhaust Conversion with Quad Pipes and X-pipe, 3 resonators deleted, 90mm tips!
Exterior: M-Tech Aero kit | M5 Mirrors | M5 Rear Bumper | Trunk Lid Finisher | Vorsteiner decklid spoiler | 50% Formula One Pinnacle Tint
Suspension and Brakes: Bilstein PSS9 coilovers, JBT BBK: 16" cross-drilled rotors, 8 piston and 15" cross-drilled rotors, 4 piston
Wheels: VIP Modular VR 02 20x9F, 20x10R | Toyo T1R 245/30/20F, 285/25/20R
Lights: PIAA 4150K Xtreme White Plus fog lights, AIB v3
MOST IMPORTANT: Hardwired V1; =)
ED Date: 4/7/05, Re-delivery date: 5/21/05
Originally Posted by ats77' post='283199' date='May 16 2006, 09:55 AM
I belive it is fact, but you can at least have the rear for me it is more important
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=25360&hl=
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=25360&hl=
There is also a reason why M5's have 255 size front tires versus 245 size front tires for 545/550. The M5s can accommodate the 255s without rubbing b/c the fenders/wings are wider. I think there are members here that have 255s on their non-M5 e60s. I'm not sure if they are having any rubbing issues. If I recall, Hamann5 and jsal might be two of the members running 255s.
EDIT: I checked both Hamann5 and Jsal. Neither are running 255s in the front.
This is a picture of a real M5 conversion. Not M-tech. Actual M5 front and rear bumper. Notice in the description, it mentions "M5 front wings." I take it to mean M5 front fender.
05-16-2006, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jiio' post='283219' date='May 16 2006, 01:44 PM
I looked at the link you provided regarding SG535d's modified rear bumper. It is known that the rear bumpers of the M5 and stock e60 are the same size. Both measure 1846mm wide. I like SG535d's modification too. Nice!
There is also a reason why M5's have 255 size front tires versus 245 size front tires for 545/550. The M5s can accommodate the 255s without rubbing b/c the fenders/wings are wider. I think there are members here that have 255s on their non-M5 e60s. I'm not sure if they are having any rubbing issues. If I recall, Hamann5 and jsal might be two of the members running 255s.
This is a pciture of a real M5 conversion. Not M-tech. Actual M5 front and rear bumper. Notice in the description, it mentions "M5 front wings." I take it to mean M5 front fender.
Attachment 18995
There is also a reason why M5's have 255 size front tires versus 245 size front tires for 545/550. The M5s can accommodate the 255s without rubbing b/c the fenders/wings are wider. I think there are members here that have 255s on their non-M5 e60s. I'm not sure if they are having any rubbing issues. If I recall, Hamann5 and jsal might be two of the members running 255s.
This is a pciture of a real M5 conversion. Not M-tech. Actual M5 front and rear bumper. Notice in the description, it mentions "M5 front wings." I take it to mean M5 front fender.
Attachment 18995
Just to clarify, the M-Tech Aero kit will fit a stock E60 while an OEM M5 front bumper will not. Is this correct? Thanks
05-16-2006, 12:34 PM
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
M-style said here M5 fenders, case closed.
gpt touched at the point, M5 rear yes as width is the same, M5 front ONLY with M5 fenders installed! otw not.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=24464
gpt touched at the point, M5 rear yes as width is the same, M5 front ONLY with M5 fenders installed! otw not.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=24464
05-16-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BERM' post='282727' date='May 15 2006, 02:33 PM
So still it's not clear to me if you can fit the M5 bumper on regular E60 or not?? If the bumper from M5 is wider there is no way that any body shop will fit that bumper. Quad_M what kind of return policy do you have if the M5 bumper won't fit??? Do you have any other pictures of the Rieger front bumper??
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