E60 550i Dyno w/ AFE, w/ stock, w/ stock + RPi
10-28-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by r1racer' post='705555' date='Oct 28 2008, 02:42 PM
Guys,
Whoever purchased the AFE intake from me please go to my thread and list your name for a refund...thank you.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=64310
Whoever purchased the AFE intake from me please go to my thread and list your name for a refund...thank you.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=64310
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10-28-2008, 02:45 PM
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RPI - It's been done? Please post the actual results of the runs with 3 stock e60 cars and 3 stock e60 cars with AFE only.
Basic tuning? Aren't you supposed to tune the car after the mods have been made? You're making my point that the AFE isnt working with the JB3. Again, which specific product isnt working? You'd have to test each possible configuration to find the specific culprit or culprits.
Pics of cars on a dynos don't mean shit, especially ones of three different cars testing the same product. Someones going to have to explain that one to me. (Don't its just rhetorical.)
I'm done.
Basic tuning? Aren't you supposed to tune the car after the mods have been made? You're making my point that the AFE isnt working with the JB3. Again, which specific product isnt working? You'd have to test each possible configuration to find the specific culprit or culprits.
Pics of cars on a dynos don't mean shit, especially ones of three different cars testing the same product. Someones going to have to explain that one to me. (Don't its just rhetorical.)
I'm done.
10-28-2008, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joet@raceprecision.com' post='705556' date='Oct 28 2008, 11:42 AM
Easy explanation. Rambird, having gotten his M5 recently, drives it hard and often whereas JC58 rarely ever drives his. When JC58 does drive, he babies his M5. Remember folks, the car learns your driving habits and makes the adjustments accordingly.
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10-28-2008, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by keang24' post='705835' date='Oct 28 2008, 07:29 PM
Yeap, the car learns your driving style. If you don't drive her hard or redline often. The ecu parameter will use the default parameters. You can see the a/f graph after 7200 RPM, the car was running rich since I was babying the car. THen I drove it hard for a week, redyno, the a/f was right around 12.5
10-28-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='705837' date='Oct 28 2008, 04:31 PM
But 20HP at the wheels???
Edit: i have seen 2-3 cars when driving soft, the a/f got dip rich and of course, you lose some power there.
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Originally Posted by keang24' post='705840' date='Oct 28 2008, 07:34 PM
May not be as much as 20hp if you factor unknow varience between motor to motor, some motor just strong from factory. But a/f ratio will give you a good indication on how the car running.
10-28-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='705841' date='Oct 28 2008, 04:35 PM
Gotcha. Well, I'm going to continue keeping my car in M Mode, redlining it all the time and doing 1 launch per week. Hahahaha!
10-28-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by evo42' post='705790' date='Oct 28 2008, 03:45 PM
RPI - It's been done? Please post the actual results of the runs with 3 stock e60 cars and 3 stock e60 cars with AFE only.
Basic tuning? Aren't you supposed to tune the car after the mods have been made? You're making my point that the AFE isnt working with the JB3. Again, which specific product isnt working? You'd have to test each possible configuration to find the specific culprit or culprits.
Pics of cars on a dynos don't mean shit, especially ones of three different cars testing the same product. Someones going to have to explain that one to me. (Don't its just rhetorical.)
I'm done.
Basic tuning? Aren't you supposed to tune the car after the mods have been made? You're making my point that the AFE isnt working with the JB3. Again, which specific product isnt working? You'd have to test each possible configuration to find the specific culprit or culprits.
Pics of cars on a dynos don't mean shit, especially ones of three different cars testing the same product. Someones going to have to explain that one to me. (Don't its just rhetorical.)
I'm done.
Just curious, have you tuned a car before?
This is a picture of one of the timing maps vs. IATs. Modern ECUs all operate in a similar manner. Notice how the hotter the IAT (intake air temps) are, the less timing advance there is? Where it starts to get hot, there is actually timing retard. The same thing goes with the fuel mixture.
10-28-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='705837' date='Oct 28 2008, 04:31 PM
But 20HP at the wheels???
How about removing the scoops and re-dyno his car and then also doing another dyno after he abuses it for a few weeks?