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Old 03-02-2006, 05:36 PM
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Hi

My 2004 545i is being rebuilt.. front end damage. Block was damaged at the bolt/threads.... Found a 4.8 X5 engine from a 2005. Can it fit into the 545i? What are the implications other than oil pan? Engine management system? Any clues?

I read that the 4.8 liter X5 and the 545i share the same ECU: DME / EK928_2

Can anyone confirm? This is a 10/2004 prod. date X5 4.8is engine.. and the 545i is a 2/2004 prod date. I read that the 4.8 is nothing more than a bored-out 4.5 and everything is pretty much the same?

Please confirm.. I rather drop this 4.8 than the one from the 745 that I also got. duh!! My original 545i engine has damaged threads holes on the block.. but is otherwise a 37k mi. engine... .

Please let me know..
I will soon have a 745 engine with 22k miles for sale..
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Wow that would be interesting... but I dont know the answer...

Hope someone does cuz I would like to see the results of that!
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It's a lot more fun when dropped into a Morgan Aero...

http://www.bmwworld.com/models/vinta...gan_aero_8.htm

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Good idea. But, I think you will need to be in close contact with BMW engineers to pull your plan off well.
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Not sure if it'll help, but this guy dropped an M3 engine into a 323i. Maybe you'll find something useful in his thread or by contacting him...
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=176943
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Usually the SUV version of an engine is tuned differently than the car version of the same engine. This relates to torque and horse power curves.
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Originally Posted by abdoul' post='248931' date='Mar 2 2006, 09:36 PM
I read that the 4.8 liter X5 and the 545i share the same ECU: DME / EK928_2

Can anyone confirm? This is a 10/2004 prod. date X5 4.8is engine.. and the 545i is a 2/2004 prod date. I read that the 4.8 is nothing more than a bored-out 4.5 and everything is pretty much the same?
Yes, they do use the same DME, mine was recalled at the VPC and I know the 4.8 X5 was also affected.
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='248999' date='Mar 2 2006, 08:08 PM
Usually the SUV version of an engine is tuned differently than the car version of the same engine. This relates to torque and horse power curves.
I would agree. I know the specs (hp/torque) on the 4.4 X5 and 4.4 545i where slightly different. I would look closely at the engine specs. I am sure there are some other differences related to transmission/gearing and the way the engine is tuned.

My gut feel is you would run into other problems as you did the job.

I would contact your dealers field service engineer and start there. I would also do some looking into a 4.8l from a 550 - I am sure there is some poor shmuck that is going to total one.

Another option is to look into the RDS and Hamann 545 upgrades. I heard the Hamann is a whole new engine. Both are probably expensive though.
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Drop one of these bad boys into your 545

http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/NorthAmeri...A_E60_Motor.htm
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Originally Posted by Busta' post='249067' date='Mar 2 2006, 10:46 PM
Drop one of these bad boys into your 545

http://www.racdyn.com/Localized/NorthAmeri...A_E60_Motor.htm
Would one of those motors void my warranty?
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