DMS vs Wetterauer vs heinz for 535d
06-27-2006, 10:34 AM
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Guys, i need to choose. Any ideas on performance differences, quality and reliability of the car afterwards?
That is regardless of location.
DMS is 334HP & 620NM while Wetterauer is 350HP and 680NM - does this mean Wett. will do faster that 5.5secs to 60 (which the dms does)
what who you guys choose - assuming location is not an issue?
That is regardless of location.
DMS is 334HP & 620NM while Wetterauer is 350HP and 680NM - does this mean Wett. will do faster that 5.5secs to 60 (which the dms does)
what who you guys choose - assuming location is not an issue?
06-27-2006, 11:57 AM
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[i]DMS is 334HP & 620NM while Wetterauer is 350HP and 680NM - does this mean Wett. will do faster that 5.5secs to 60 (which the dms does)
As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
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Originally Posted by Diagnosic' post='304062' date='Jun 27 2006, 08:57 PM
[i]DMS is 334HP & 620NM while Wetterauer is 350HP and 680NM - does this mean Wett. will do faster that 5.5secs to 60 (which the dms does)
As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
06-27-2006, 01:13 PM
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As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
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My mistake - ok 685NM. You didnt reply as to which u would choose?
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My mistake - ok 685NM. You didnt reply as to which u would choose?
06-27-2006, 01:13 PM
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As far as I know, DMS delivers 685 NM and not only 620 (for the 535d).
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My mistake - ok 685NM. You didnt reply as to which u would choose?
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My mistake - ok 685NM. You didnt reply as to which u would choose?
06-27-2006, 01:18 PM
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Aldi what you need? Decide on that, you can even get almost 400 but for what???
Secondly I did it here not to travel and I get the same as elsewhere. BUT the reliability was an issue for me, you saw mine did once on the dyno 310hp, but I do not really care, enough is enough you can run many kms w/o sleeping but for what?
So I wud call all of them, and decide on budget, and what they offer as service and after service and performance concerned. Yes Heinz gives you 320hp w warr. and outside 350hp and over 700-760 Nm call him and ask ...BUt he has many customers from Germany and UK, mainly NL and here, but you never see him in adds like Wetterrauer or DMS, he does not need that ( 20 yrs of tuning experience and active motorsporting that is what counts for me), same w HAMANN, I do not care that they are "trendy", for me it is the respect of heritage and knowledge, not only top speeds and drag times...
ps. bhp is always less than hp!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
Secondly I did it here not to travel and I get the same as elsewhere. BUT the reliability was an issue for me, you saw mine did once on the dyno 310hp, but I do not really care, enough is enough you can run many kms w/o sleeping but for what?
So I wud call all of them, and decide on budget, and what they offer as service and after service and performance concerned. Yes Heinz gives you 320hp w warr. and outside 350hp and over 700-760 Nm call him and ask ...BUt he has many customers from Germany and UK, mainly NL and here, but you never see him in adds like Wetterrauer or DMS, he does not need that
( 20 yrs of tuning experience and active motorsporting that is what counts for me), same w HAMANN, I do not care that they are "trendy", for me it is the respect of heritage and knowledge, not only top speeds and drag times...ps. bhp is always less than hp!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
06-27-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='304096' date='Jun 28 2006, 12:18 AM
Aldi what you need? Decide on that, you can even get almost 400 but for what???
Secondly I did it here not to travel and I get the same as elsewhere. BUT the reliability was an issue for me, you saw mine did once on the dyno 310hp, but I do not really care, enough is enough you can run many kms w/o sleeping but for what?
So I wud call all of them, and decide on budget, and what they offer as service and after service and performance concerned. Yes Heinz gives you 350hp and over 700-760 Nm call him and ask ...BUt he has many customers from Germany and UK, mainly NL and here, but you never see him in adds like Wetterrauer or DMS, he does not need that ( 20 yrs of tuning experience and active motorsporting that is what counts for me), same w HAMANN, I do not care that they are "trendy", for me it is the respect of heritage and knowledge, not only top speeds and drag times...
ps. bhp is always less than hp!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
Secondly I did it here not to travel and I get the same as elsewhere. BUT the reliability was an issue for me, you saw mine did once on the dyno 310hp, but I do not really care, enough is enough you can run many kms w/o sleeping but for what?
So I wud call all of them, and decide on budget, and what they offer as service and after service and performance concerned. Yes Heinz gives you 350hp and over 700-760 Nm call him and ask ...BUt he has many customers from Germany and UK, mainly NL and here, but you never see him in adds like Wetterrauer or DMS, he does not need that
( 20 yrs of tuning experience and active motorsporting that is what counts for me), same w HAMANN, I do not care that they are "trendy", for me it is the respect of heritage and knowledge, not only top speeds and drag times...ps. bhp is always less than hp!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
I would go for whoever gets the biggest numbers, offers the best warranty, and the last place is the cheapest. Till now wetterauer seems the best alternative. I'm not gaining to much for torque, but more i'd like hp gains. Torque is alredy at a high level. If i could squeeze 360bhp and 650 (tops) NM that would be perfect.
And to speak of reliability come on ppl a tuned car is a tuned car, and if shit happens and a turbo gets cracked or i dunno, it may happend at 320 or at 350bhp level of tuning. Of course the long term long life of the engine is reduced by the bigger numbers but come on...instead of 150 000km the components will last 135000 km...if you know what i mean! And also i'd like to point that it matters how do you drive your car, cuz imo if you track it very often,lets say, then the chances of smth bad to happen increase exponentially. If you give it the bees only once a week or so, at a drag race or on the freeway or whatever, then the reliability gap between the level of tuning is minimal.
IMO go for the biggest numbers and for the biggest stats as long as theu give a good warranty.
Cheers!
06-27-2006, 01:45 PM
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
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� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
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� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='304117' date='Jun 27 2006, 11:41 PM
Hmmm i visited Heinz and they seem to offer a 320bhp remap and an optional one 340bhp. No 350 and 700+Nm.
I would go for whoever gets the biggest numbers, offers the best warranty, and the last place is the cheapest. Till now wetterauer seems the best alternative. I'm not gaining to much for torque, but more i'd like hp gains. Torque is alredy at a high level. If i could squeeze 360bhp and 650 (tops) NM that would be perfect.
And to speak of reliability come on ppl a tuned car is a tuned car, and if shit happens and a turbo gets cracked or i dunno, it may happend at 320 or at 350bhp level of tuning. Of course the long term long life of the engine is reduced by the bigger numbers but come on...instead of 150 000km the components will last 135000 km...if you know what i mean! And also i'd like to point that it matters how do you drive your car, cuz imo if you track it very often,lets say, then the chances of smth bad to happen increase exponentially. If you give it the bees only once a week or so, at a drag race or on the freeway or whatever, then the reliability gap between the level of tuning is minimal.
IMO go for the biggest numbers and for the biggest stats as long as theu give a good warranty.
Cheers!
I would go for whoever gets the biggest numbers, offers the best warranty, and the last place is the cheapest. Till now wetterauer seems the best alternative. I'm not gaining to much for torque, but more i'd like hp gains. Torque is alredy at a high level. If i could squeeze 360bhp and 650 (tops) NM that would be perfect.
And to speak of reliability come on ppl a tuned car is a tuned car, and if shit happens and a turbo gets cracked or i dunno, it may happend at 320 or at 350bhp level of tuning. Of course the long term long life of the engine is reduced by the bigger numbers but come on...instead of 150 000km the components will last 135000 km...if you know what i mean! And also i'd like to point that it matters how do you drive your car, cuz imo if you track it very often,lets say, then the chances of smth bad to happen increase exponentially. If you give it the bees only once a week or so, at a drag race or on the freeway or whatever, then the reliability gap between the level of tuning is minimal.
IMO go for the biggest numbers and for the biggest stats as long as theu give a good warranty.
Cheers!
edit: does not matter on the freeway, I am not sure about the track either ask Steve he is every moths taking the 350hp on the Nring. IMO torque is more than hp, you use that for drag and take off.
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='304123' date='Jun 27 2006, 04:45 PM
Hi amigo, please read post 22 and 23 I mentioned that even for "older" 530d theymentioned less but read please their page that is a reference, each car is different no matter if same specs, like each person, car's got souls you know!!! http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=27814&st=15 please read and call it always depend on what the customer wants and willng to get!!! But they do things which does NOT wear the engine edit: does not matter on the freeway, I am not sure about the track either ask Steve he is every moths taking the 350hp on the Nring. IMO torque is more than hp, you use that for drag and take off.
edit: does not matter on the freeway, I am not sure about the track either ask Steve he is every moths taking the 350hp on the Nring. IMO torque is more than hp, you use that for drag and take off.
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